03-24-2023, 11:23 AM | #281 |
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Nice Overton Window effect. Get exposed to 9% inflation and then 6% becomes acceptable. Same with fuel prices. After seeing $6 gal now $4 gal is a deal.
Maybe if the "geniuses" at gm can bring back the Camaro as a hybrid similar to the Vette it would make the transition a bit more tolerable.
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03-24-2023, 11:28 AM | #282 | |
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03-24-2023, 11:50 AM | #283 | |
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Back on topic…(almost). The primary reasons Corvette survived as a hybrid (two hybrids, there’s another coming) is that the program was already so far along in development when GM decided to go all EV it made no sense to cancel the hybrid program and flush the investment. That and the fact that the hybrid system is needed to reach the power levels required for E-Ray and the other one that is yet to come.
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03-24-2023, 12:44 PM | #284 | |
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No matter what I don’t see myself getting an ev sports car. It’s just not the same without the noise and top end pull. I know this doesn’t matter to manufacturers as very little people buy sporty cars anymore. |
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03-24-2023, 01:07 PM | #285 | |
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Nothing against Ford, they’ve successfully upgraded their engine and tech to current times. Something we’re not going to see until whatever replacement comes. Those Mustang numbers are going to start creeping up more than ever now with most people seeing the Camaro styling in the 2024 as well as the newer features introduced. Without 1/3 of the trifecta in place and the other 1/3 leaving the ICE route next year, Mustang will be eating good for the foreseeable future (but really, when are they not )
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03-24-2023, 03:20 PM | #286 |
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Such a shame. Can't blame it all on the refresh but we can sure as hell blame it on the beaurocrats that want everything to be electric, even though it's worse for the environment. I feel like there's a lot less hope it will return in its proper form than back in 2002 when we went through this before. Gonna miss you Camaro!
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03-24-2023, 03:57 PM | #287 | |
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03-24-2023, 04:12 PM | #288 | |
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03-24-2023, 04:57 PM | #289 | |
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03-24-2023, 06:15 PM | #291 | |
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Only thing that will probably remain as ICE for a long while are the pickup trucks. Ram CEO said there is no end date for ICE for them and Ford hasn't reignited as far as we know since they said they dropped. I do expect to see all passenger cars Honda civic sized be the most common EV by 2035. I don't think we will hit what California wants with a Full EV scope of new vehicle sales by 2035 though. I also think the recession we are in or are going to be in will affect things as well. I have been aggressively increased what I have been throwing in savings lately. The signs are there. The bubble is starting to burst. |
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03-24-2023, 07:58 PM | #292 | |
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03-24-2023, 08:08 PM | #293 |
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Pretty sure if your 23 order does not get picked the dealer will have to resubmit again for a 24.
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03-24-2023, 08:58 PM | #294 |
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Wish there was a way to exclude all post with EV in them...
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