[formoutofchaos]

So I found a great dealership in Irvine, the salesman understood my want to wait for the 1Le, or ZL1. I took a black 2SS with MRC and Dual exhaust * manual for a excellent test drive with my wife in the car this time.

He really let me dig in on the highway and around turns going through every mode as long as I wanted ! I ended up hitting up to 120mph numerous times on the highway after he saw my skill with a manual he said he was actually just really enjoying the drive! This really allowed me to see the things I love about the 2SS and what seemed to be missing. Im getting closer to the purchase when the 1LE comes out but still may fall for the 2SS now as my wife and I don't love suede.

things I noticed .... Power is just exceptionally perfect like a true prize fighter , did feel the 1Le suspension and 6 piston brakes would make a improvement in turns and bite. Felt a bit of a weaker link in that aspect compared to the power within the car. I also wonder do the coolers come standard as what would be on the 1le? i have to say i think the 6 piston brakes would def make a huge difference? not sure how the suspension on the 1Le would add to handling ? I also kind of can't imagine that car with the 640HP ZL1 you definitely have to have respect and skill to take that to the limit .

[Glen e]

Bonehead move doing 120 on roads....you gotta be about 22 .....

[mt3130]

I'm really interested in reading all the comments on brake feel. The feedback is almost universal in saying that the brake feel could be better, but the objective numbers say that the car stops faster than an M4 with carbon ceramic brakes.

How did GM manage to make brakes that work really well, but feel like they don't lol?

[Modshack]

Originally Posted by mt3130

I'm really interested in reading all the comments on brake feel.

How did GM manage to make brakes that work really well, but feel like they don't lol?

I've had 4-5 cars now with Brembo's. My Camaro feels great, just like all the others.

One observation: I just got my Colorado back from having new front calipers installed (Warranty issue as they were in the range of potential bad parts). Upon getting it back the brakes felt better, harder, more responsive. I attribute this to a good bleeding job my dealer did on the installation as the Calipers are essentially the same. Perhaps The Factory bleed on some Camaros was less than complete as the complaints seem to vary..

[aestil]

Originally Posted by formoutofchaos

I ended up hitting up to 120mph numerous times on the highway after he saw my skill with a manual he said he was actually just really enjoying the drive!

What does your ability to shift a manual transmision have to do with going basically double the speed limit on public roads.

You sir are an idiot.

[Modshack]

Originally Posted by aestil

You sir are an idiot.

As was the sales guy for allowing/encouraging this......

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by formoutofchaos

I also wonder do the coolers come standard as what would be on the 1le?

Coolers are the same on the 1LE as the SS. Track ready.

[nvrsatisfied]

I feel sorry for the trusting person that actually buys the car that you and the salesman trash.

[mjk3888]

I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to go 120 to test the car. You can find everything you need with some small 30-60 acceleration bursts, a few hard brake applications, and adding a little speed to some sweeping turns to feel the grip. Going 120 in a straight line tells you nothing about the dynamics of the car.

Originally Posted by mt3130

I'm really interested in reading all the comments on brake feel. The feedback is almost universal in saying that the brake feel could be better, but the objective numbers say that the car stops faster than an M4 with carbon ceramic brakes.

How did GM manage to make brakes that work really well, but feel like they don't lol?

My opinion is brake pad compound isn't up to par. I feel like the compound isn't suited to the capability of the calipers. As far as the 6 pistons on the 1LE go, we won't know until late this year. However I can say the 6 piston upgrade cars also suffer a less than exceptional initial bite. I drove a 6 piston upgrade car and could still feel the lack of bite, but the stopping power was still there.

If you do some research on the track reviews some of the guys are starting to post now you will see the pads don't seem to handle the abuse as well as you would hope. Good news is that's an easy and relatively inexpensive fix.

[SpookShow'84]

Well at least it's good to know where we can go rag one out, and which dealership to actually avoid buying from.

[Curr]

Originally Posted by SpookShow'84

Well at least it's good to know where we can go rag one out, and which dealership to actually avoid buying from.

Ding ding ding.

ITT: Things don't go the way OP thought they would... "I'm gonna go brag about ragging on a new car, huehuehue"

Bonehead.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to go 120 to test the car. You can find everything you need with some small 30-60 acceleration bursts, a few hard brake applications, and adding a little speed to some sweeping turns to feel the grip. Going 120 in a straight line tells you nothing about the dynamics of the car.



My opinion is brake pad compound isn't up to par. I feel like the compound isn't suited to the capability of the calipers. As far as the 6 pistons on the 1LE go, we won't know until late this year. However I can say the 6 piston upgrade cars also suffer a less than exceptional initial bite. I drove a 6 piston upgrade car and could still feel the lack of bite, but the stopping power was still there.

If you do some research on the track reviews some of the guys are starting to post now you will see the pads don't seem to handle the abuse as well as you would hope. Good news is that's an easy and relatively inexpensive fix.

I wonder how many of them have had their brakes burnished/broken in properly......that makes a difference.

[SpookShow'84]

Probably about 1%.

[Lucely Engineered]

What dealership was this at?

So forum members know not to buy this Camaro that has been thrashed well under the break in.