[LovePhenom]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

As a 5th Gen owner, I don't get it. So many people mad about the price, but as outlined many times... we're getting what we pay for. I am just glad the little details are no longer items I have to buy after the fact.

But not everyone loves the new styling. That's a personal preference that can be overcome by some.

Like the way the remote starter system is included with the automatic transmission. I'm amped about that.

[joemosfet]

Originally Posted by LovePhenom

Like the way the remote starter system is included with the automatic transmission. I'm amped about that.

This is on some 5th gens as well, remote start from your phone, even.

[Curr]

I really liked the black split spoke wheels... but for $2k, I think I'm going to just get a set of Forgestar F14 in black. Might even bump up each rim 0.5" and go up a size in tires, and stick Conti DW's or Michelin PSS on them.

[JaxChris]

Originally Posted by joemosfet

This is on some 5th gens as well, remote start from your phone, even.

All 5th Gen LT's & SS's made after the first couple months of initial production include remote start with the automatic transmission.

OnStar RemoteLink features were introduced with 2011 models and those with automatics could use the remote start feature if factory remote start came on the vehicle (can not be LPO remote start, like offered on the Malibu LS & 1LT).

Starting with late 2013 & all 2014 models, OnStar RemoteLink is included for 5 years with new vehicle purchases. The OnStar RemoteLink vulnerability issue still has not been completely resolved, so I refuse to use it.

[joemosfet]

Originally Posted by JaxChris

The OnStar RemoteLink vulnerability issue still has not been completely resolved, so I refuse to use it.

http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/gm-f...o-hacking.html

[kcgesq]

Hello all,

This is my first post. Looking to order a 2SS but may wait until spring.

So, here's what I think I am going with: Hyper Blue with the white seat inserts and white rally stripes.

Camaro 2SS $41,300.00 + DFC $995.00

❏ Exhaust, dual-mode, performance ($895.00)
❏ Magnetic Ride Control ($1,695.00)
❏ Transmission, 8-speed automatic, includes transmission oil cooler *Also includes Active Fuel Management, Remote vehicle starter system, Paddle-shift manual controls, Rear axle, 2.77 ratio ($1,495.00)
❏ Wheels, 20" x 8.5" (50.8 cm x 21.6 cm) front and 20" x 9.5" (50.8 cm x 24.1 cm) rear 5-spoke low gloss Black aluminum ($200.00)
❏ Audio system, Chevrolet MyLink Radio with Navigation and 8" diagonal color touch-screen, AM/FM stereo with seek-and-scan and digital clock, includes Bluetooth streaming audio for music and select phones; voice-activated technology for radio and phone; featuring Apple CarPlay capability for compatible phone ($495.00)
❏ Ceramic White Interior Accent Trim Package, includes Black interior with Ceramic White front seat inserts, door inserts and stitching on front seats, doors, steering wheel, shifter and center console ($500.00)
❏ White Pearl Rally Stripes *Not available with exterior color Summit White ($470.00)


Base 2 SS 41,300
DFC 995
NPP 895
MRC 1695
MX0 1495
56R 200
IO6 495
BRD 500
BO3 470
Total 48,045

[GMGP5X]

Originally Posted by kcgesq

Hello all,

This is my first post. Looking to order a 2SS but may wait until spring.

So, here's what I think I am going with: Hyper Blue with the white seat inserts and white rally stripes.

Camaro 2SS $41,300.00 + DFC $995.00

❏ Exhaust, dual-mode, performance ($895.00)
❏ Magnetic Ride Control ($1,695.00)
❏ Transmission, 8-speed automatic, includes transmission oil cooler *Also includes Active Fuel Management, Remote vehicle starter system, Paddle-shift manual controls, Rear axle, 2.77 ratio ($1,495.00)
❏ Wheels, 20" x 8.5" (50.8 cm x 21.6 cm) front and 20" x 9.5" (50.8 cm x 24.1 cm) rear 5-spoke low gloss Black aluminum ($200.00)
❏ Audio system, Chevrolet MyLink Radio with Navigation and 8" diagonal color touch-screen, AM/FM stereo with seek-and-scan and digital clock, includes Bluetooth streaming audio for music and select phones; voice-activated technology for radio and phone; featuring Apple CarPlay capability for compatible phone ($495.00)
❏ Ceramic White Interior Accent Trim Package, includes Black interior with Ceramic White front seat inserts, door inserts and stitching on front seats, doors, steering wheel, shifter and center console ($500.00)
❏ White Pearl Rally Stripes *Not available with exterior color Summit White ($470.00)


Base 2 SS 41,300
DFC 995
NPP 895
MRC 1695
MX0 1495
56R 200
IO6 495
BRD 500
BO3 470
Total 48,045

Welcome to the forums. The wife and I are waiting until spring also, we will be getting almost the same car but with no rally stripes and on the fence about the nav system.

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Zultain7

The interior spectrum lighting is only available on the 2LT as part of the convenience and lighting package and the 2SS as standard. It is not available on the 1LT nor the 1SS

That's good news to me. I somehow got the impression that all SSs had the spectrum lighting, which doesn't interest me in the least (I'd probably opt for a 1SS, though I would like to be able to "option" a few of the 2SS features without getting them all).

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

My 2013 is looking better all the time.

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Your 1SS has RS and auto.? So similarly equipped to the new base 1SS, its roughly a 1500 dollar difference. I don't see a big reason to complain about that.

My point is there are some features I would like to be able to add on to a 1SS that appear to be available only on a 2SS (many as standard equipment). Dual zone climate control, Bose audio upgrade, universal remote, heated/dimming outside mirrors... to name a few. The difference between items available on the 1SS vs 2SS are way far apart and not worth (to me) $5K+ to get a bunch of stuff I don't care about having.

Originally Posted by joemosfet

Agreed, not for the level of tech and features it has, compared to 5th gen.

Performance wise, the tech levels seem to be comparable (which is my main interest). As stated above, the nice-to-have features just seem to be way too heavily tilted toward the 2SS.

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

It's just people justifying why they are not going to buy a new car. Nothing more.

Wrong (in my case anyway). I have bought only new cars for the past 15 years - that doesn't bother me. It's not the money, per say. I just don't think in order to get dual-zone climate control and heated mirrors I should also have to pay for leather seats (which I hate), HUD (which I also hate), and spectrum lighting (which is just a stupid gimmick).So you see... there is more to it.

[joemosfet]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

That's good news to me. I somehow got the impression that all SSs had the spectrum lighting, which doesn't interest me in the least (I'd probably opt for a 1SS).

Things that are available on the 2LT/2SS but not available on the 1LT/1SS:

• Dual zone climate control
• Navigation
• Heads up Display
• Leather seats
• Kalahari, Adrenaline Red, Ceramic White interior colors
• Adrenaline Red / Ceramic White interior trim packages
• Interior Spectrum Lighting
• Memory seat & mirror recall function
• Heated & Ventilated Seats
• Illuminated Sill Plates
• Heated Steering Wheel
• Universal Garage remote
• Wireless charging for mobile devices
• Heated outside mirrors
• Rear park assist
• Rear cross-traffic alert
• Side blind zone indicators (with lane change alert)
• 5-spoke low gloss Black aluminum wheels

Let me know if I'm forgetting anything or made a mistake.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

My point is there are some features I would like to be able to add on to a 1SS that appear to be available only on a 2SS (many as standard equipment). Dual zone climate control, Bose audio upgrade, universal remote, heated/dimming outside mirrors... to name a few. The difference between items available on the 1SS vs 2SS are way far apart and not worth (to me) $5K+ to get a bunch of stuff I don't care about having.

...

I agree with you...more options we have to customize our builds, the better (from a customer point of view). I wish I could have added the premium audio to my 1SS purchase, but I can't (bummer!) So you are 100% correct there

But as the argument goes, the more options there are, the more complex/complicated, and possibly more expensive the build process becomes.

I know you realize this, but I was merely pointing out that I feel for what you are getting the price is fine, and if you build the cars (2015 to 2016) with as similar options as you can, the price difference isn't as huge as it initially appears. The price difference between my now sold 2010 V6 RS 1LT compared to a similarly (actually better) equipped 2016 is about a grand....for a much better car in my opinion.

[joemosfet]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I wish I could have added the premium audio to my 1SS purchase, but I can't (bummer!)

I wonder how expensive and difficult it would be to buy and install these parts after the fact.

[SSport16]

Originally Posted by joemosfet

I wonder how expensive and difficult it would be to buy and install these parts after the fact.

Why bother? If I were to install audio after the fact, I would install some high quality aftermarket audio setup, something much better than the stock Bose system.

[KMPrenger]

I'm just going to do a sub and be done with it.