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Old 05-05-2017, 03:50 PM   #155
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I found this kind of interesting. Taken from our cross town car site buddy website Mustang 6 G.com

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While the engine specifications everyone is waiting for still remains to-be-determined, an unexpected change in interior dimensions seen in the brochure is that the 2018 Mustang will have 0.6-inch increased front legroom although rear legroom has been decreased by 1.6-inches.
1.6 inches really taken from the backseat? I mean..yes...backseat in these cars....its not something that is a priority. But would that make it even less than the Camaro? Just seems surprising to me. lol

They did add .6 of room to the front though. Guess they want to give taller drivers more room.
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:09 PM   #156
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To bring this thread back to life....

I found this kind of interesting. Taken from our cross town car site buddy website Mustang 6 G.com



1.6 inches really taken from the backseat? I mean..yes...backseat in these cars....its not something that is a priority. But would that make it even less than the Camaro? Just seems surprising to me. lol

They did add .6 of room to the front though. Guess they want to give taller drivers more room.
I don't remember what the difference was between the Camaro and Mustang, but that has to make it at the least the same amount of legroom.

Off topic, do you have any pics of your SS with the hash marks? I was thinking of getting black on mine but haven't seen enough pics to decide.
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:50 PM   #157
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I don't remember what the difference was between the Camaro and Mustang, but that has to make it at the least the same amount of legroom.

Off topic, do you have any pics of your SS with the hash marks? I was thinking of getting black on mine but haven't seen enough pics to decide.
So actually mine are from bigworm graphics. They are two toned, with a textured carbon fiber main color and gunmetal grey gloss stripes on the sides. I love them. See this link http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=100
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Old 03-14-2018, 07:03 PM   #158
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I seriously considered buying the 2018 Mustang GT with the 10 speed auto; until I drove it. It is an great car, but I only found it to be enjoyable when driving it hard (3/4 - WOT).

Despite what it says on paper, the power still lacking down low. I just love the low down light to moderate throttle opening torque that the Camaro offers. Put simply, the Camaro drivetrain puts a smile on my face around town. The Mustang didn't put a smile on my face until I was WOT, in the upper rev range power-band, and halfway to jail.

Handling and chassis wise a 1SS and a GT Base are in two very different categories. The 1SS feels like a sports car; while the GT Base feels like a sporty car.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:36 PM   #159
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I seriously considered buying the 2018 Mustang GT with the 10 speed auto; until I drove it. It is an great car, but I only found it to be enjoyable when driving it hard (3/4 - WOT).

Despite what it says on paper, the power still lacking down low. I just love the low down light to moderate throttle opening torque that the Camaro offers. Put simply, the Camaro drivetrain puts a smile on my face around town. The Mustang didn't put a smile on my face until I was WOT, in the upper rev range power-band, and halfway to jail.

Handling and chassis wise a 1SS and a GT Base are in two very different categories. The 1SS feels like a sports car; while the GT Base feels like a sporty car.

I recently went from a 2016 Scat Pack Challenger to an A10 equipped PP 2018 GT. the difference in off idle Torque was readily apparent and to be honest the car felt very mild when driving in D mode, then i started driving with the shifter in S mode (just the shifter not the entire sport mode) instantly off idle performance and around town was greatly improved and the car was much more snappy. it actually felt like it might really have that advertised 460 hp. it's still nothing close to being the torque monster my scat pack was but in S mode it's much better and in D mode my wife can drive it and not even be aware that it's a high hp car.
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Old 03-19-2018, 03:08 AM   #160
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I recently went from a 2016 Scat Pack Challenger to an A10 equipped PP 2018 GT. the difference in off idle Torque was readily apparent and to be honest the car felt very mild when driving in D mode, then i started driving with the shifter in S mode (just the shifter not the entire sport mode) instantly off idle performance and around town was greatly improved and the car was much more snappy. it actually felt like it might really have that advertised 460 hp. it's still nothing close to being the torque monster my scat pack was but in S mode it's much better and in D mode my wife can drive it and not even be aware that it's a high hp car.
The Scat Pack is a "torque monster"? I remember when people used to call the LS1's "torque monsters" too LoL

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Old 03-19-2018, 10:22 AM   #161
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I seriously considered buying the 2018 Mustang GT with the 10 speed auto; until I drove it. It is an great car, but I only found it to be enjoyable when driving it hard (3/4 - WOT).

Despite what it says on paper, the power still lacking down low. I just love the low down light to moderate throttle opening torque that the Camaro offers. Put simply, the Camaro drivetrain puts a smile on my face around town. The Mustang didn't put a smile on my face until I was WOT, in the upper rev range power-band, and halfway to jail.

Handling and chassis wise a 1SS and a GT Base are in two very different categories. The 1SS feels like a sports car; while the GT Base feels like a sporty car.
yep the lack of low end grunt is hopeless in the mustang.
camaro is like wow that pulls nice...
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Old 03-19-2018, 11:47 AM   #162
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yep the lack of low end grunt is hopeless in the mustang.
camaro is like wow that pulls nice...
Yeah kinda like the SS being done at 6500 rpms, vs 7500 rpms for the GT. Bottom line is the GT seems to be trapping better mph in the 1/4 and it has been stated in review it walks away from the SS after the 1/4 mile. Pick your poison.
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Old 03-19-2018, 12:09 PM   #163
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I seriously considered buying the 2018 Mustang GT with the 10 speed auto; until I drove it. It is an great car, but I only found it to be enjoyable when driving it hard (3/4 - WOT).

Despite what it says on paper, the power still lacking down low. I just love the low down light to moderate throttle opening torque that the Camaro offers. Put simply, the Camaro drivetrain puts a smile on my face around town. The Mustang didn't put a smile on my face until I was WOT, in the upper rev range power-band, and halfway to jail.

Handling and chassis wise a 1SS and a GT Base are in two very different categories. The 1SS feels like a sports car; while the GT Base feels like a sporty car.
Camaro and mustang need their motors swapped

Coyote > lt1 for spirited driving, race track, and general fun while your pushing on it
Lt1 > coyote for general DD driving

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Old 03-19-2018, 12:46 PM   #164
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Yeah kinda like the SS being done at 6500 rpms, vs 7500 rpms for the GT.
But the SS gets going 2500 rpm sooner.


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Bottom line is the GT seems to be trapping better mph in the 1/4 and it has been stated in review it walks away from the SS after the 1/4 mile. Pick your poison.
"Most people" spend more time driving in the lower rpm range so the low end grunt is more enjoyable and useful. Its neat that a GT will catch the SS before a mile though.
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By the end of the quarter mile, the Camaro is still in the lead but not by much: 12.5 seconds at 115.2 mph for the Chevy versus the Mustang’s 12.6 seconds at 115.1 mph

To the best of our cowboy science abilities, we marked off what probably was pretty close to a mile and went for it. The Mustang repeatedly beat the Camaro, showing 159 mph on its speedo to the Chevy’s 151 mph.

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Old 03-19-2018, 01:00 PM   #165
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But the SS gets going 2500 rpm sooner.



"Most people" spend more time driving in the lower rpm range so the low end grunt is more enjoyable and useful. Its neat that a GT will catch the SS before a mile though.

But you left the following comments out of MT's article.

The Ford was about four car lengths ahead each time, too. And by “each time,” I mean we did this about 30 times in a row.

By the end of the quarter mile, the Camaro is still in the lead but not by much: 12.5 seconds at 115.2 mph for the Chevy versus the Mustang’s 12.6 seconds at 115.1 mph. Road test editor Chris Walton, our straight-line guru, told me that were we to lengthen the race, the Ford would win because at that point the Chevy’s torque and traction advantage is gone, and high-reving DOHC horsepower takes over.


Again no right or wrong answer.
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The right answer is the LT1, lol.
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reading all these comments about how each engine makes power reminds me of when my pops would talk about big blocks vs small blocks lol
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But you left the following comments out of MT's article.

The Ford was about four car lengths ahead each time, too. And by “each time,” I mean we did this about 30 times in a row.

By the end of the quarter mile, the Camaro is still in the lead but not by much: 12.5 seconds at 115.2 mph for the Chevy versus the Mustang’s 12.6 seconds at 115.1 mph. Road test editor Chris Walton, our straight-line guru, told me that were we to lengthen the race, the Ford would win because at that point the Chevy’s torque and traction advantage is gone, and high-reving DOHC horsepower takes over.


Again no right or wrong answer.
"were we to lengthen the race." You left out "mile"

You missed that I wrote "Its neat that a GT will catch the SS before a mile though" and the MT quote I posted below that saying "marked off what probably was pretty close to a mile and went for it. The Mustang repeatedly beat the Camaro, showing 159 mph on its speedo to the Chevy’s 151 mph".

You failed to comment on the SSes useful power band being much lower than the GT rendering its 6500 to 7500 rpm advantage moot
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