New 2LS Trim Level for 2011 - Camaro 2LS, 30 MPG - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

FenwickHockey65 · 02-07-2011, 01:41 PM

Camaro LS with automatic transmission is now designated 2LS.

2LS package includes rear spoiler, 2.92 rear axle ratio, and standard LS steel wheels.

2LS model achieves 30 MPG highway.

MSRP: $24,700.

1LS cars will be available only with manual transmission.

rolnslo · 02-07-2011, 01:45 PM

What effect will the gearing change have on 0-60?

I completely understand why GM would do this but are they trading off performance for fuel economy? Isn't that was the Cruze is for?

bossbunny · 02-07-2011, 01:52 PM

Awesome!

Thanks Fen for the info!!

:wuv:

jordan 572 · 02-07-2011, 01:55 PM

Cool I guess.

cab2g · 02-07-2011, 01:56 PM

that's neat, now the Camaro gets the same MPG as the Mustang with more HP in the V6 trim

It's a numbers game. Now if they could just offer factory gear options to increase performance...

cab2g · 02-07-2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolnslo

What effect will the gearing change have on 0-60?

I completely understand why GM would do this but are they trading off performance for fuel economy? Isn't that was the Cruze is for?

but in GM's defense the LS is speed limited to 118MPH already, if a V6 buyer is really concerned about performance they should get a 1LT RS with the summer tires and higher factory speed limit and stickier tires for better 0-60.

SSLarry · 02-07-2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolnslo

What effect will the gearing change have on 0-60?

I completely understand why GM would do this but are they trading off performance for fuel economy? Isn't that was the Cruze is for?

Maybe they are trading off 0-60 performance for fuel economy perofmance? GM must figure that the Camaro V6 being slower than the Mustang V6 is not as important to buyers' as fuel economy.

V8 shoppers on the other hand emphasize performance over fuel economy. It's always nice to have both, but one is more important in the buying calculation

midnighter · 02-07-2011, 02:00 PM

That's splendid.

Smart Line · 02-07-2011, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cab2g

that's neat, now the Camaro gets the same MPG as the Mustang with more HP in the V6 trim

It's a numbers game. Now if they could just offer factory gear options to increase performance...

X2....

mikeSS · 02-07-2011, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSLarry

Maybe they are trading off 0-60 performance for fuel economy perofmance? GM must figure that the Camaro V6 being slower than the Mustang V6 is not as important to buyers' as fuel economy.

V8 shoppers on the other hand emphasize performance over fuel economy. It's always nice to have both, but one is more important in the buying calculation

yes. the cars are made for different reasons. thats why it makes sense to me. chevy it trying to make a cool looking car that can get good MPG and is more practical.

LoneStar · 02-07-2011, 02:38 PM

I'm glad I already have my LS. Decreased performance for only 1 mpg increase in fuel economy isn't worth it. I could get 1 mpg more by adding a CAI!

SSLarry · 02-07-2011, 03:00 PM

Being over 30mpg is a huge marketing victory.

Civic and Camaro both get mpg "in the 30's".

Deceiving yes, lie no.

*radz28* · 02-07-2011, 03:00 PM

Though I think it's great to have this as an option, I hope it's not the new, CAMARO-based car we've been reading about... I think it's great and some else to consider for those who are looking for fuel efficiency. Great thinking GM

cab2g · 02-07-2011, 03:03 PM

I do wonder if it's possible to add this gear ratio as an option for the LT model as well? I mean why not make it a no-cost option. It may be a selling point for somebody that wants the looks of a Camaro (spoiler, ambient lighting, RS and all) with the best MPG possible.

02-07-2011, 01:41 PM	#1
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rolnslo Rolling along... Drives: 2011 2SS/RS SGM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,380 View My Garage	What effect will the gearing change have on 0-60? I completely understand why GM would do this but are they trading off performance for fuel economy? Isn't that was the Cruze is for? __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Synergy Green A6

02-07-2011, 01:56 PM	#5
cab2g love. my. car. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,372 View My Garage	that's neat, now the Camaro gets the same MPG as the Mustang with more HP in the V6 trim It's a numbers game. Now if they could just offer factory gear options to increase performance... __________________

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SSLarry Drives: 2SS LS3 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 1,309	Being over 30mpg is a huge marketing victory. Civic and Camaro both get mpg "in the 30's". Deceiving yes, lie no. __________________ 2010 CGM 2SS LS3, born: 4/10

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radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,201 View My Garage	Though I think it's great to have this as an option, I hope it's not the new, CAMARO-based car we've been reading about... I think it's great and some else to consider for those who are looking for fuel efficiency. Great thinking GM __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

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bossbunny Mrs. Bunny to you Drives: Not a Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cut 'N Shoot Texas Posts: 24,336	Awesome! Thanks Fen for the info!! :wuv:

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jordan 572 Drives: none Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MN Posts: 1,720 View My Garage	Cool I guess.

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midnighter Account Suspended Drives: nothing Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: a hole Posts: 17,906	That's splendid.

02-07-2011, 02:38 PM	#11
LoneStar Drives: 2011 IOM Camaro Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 3,446	I'm glad I already have my LS. Decreased performance for only 1 mpg increase in fuel economy isn't worth it. I could get 1 mpg more by adding a CAI!

02-07-2011, 03:03 PM	#14
cab2g love. my. car. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,372 View My Garage	I do wonder if it's possible to add this gear ratio as an option for the LT model as well? I mean why not make it a no-cost option. It may be a selling point for somebody that wants the looks of a Camaro (spoiler, ambient lighting, RS and all) with the best MPG possible. __________________

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