[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

I'm not sure, but the transmission in the Vettte is in the back of the car connected to the differential. Not up front connected to the engine like most cars. So, the cooler could be in the back serviced by one of the air inlets in the rear of the car.

That's what I was thinking. Back near the exhaust pipes too which Baylor thinks might be one of the issues with the C7. Even with inlets for air, that can't be very efficient. I'm thinking the location on the 6th gen will work much better being in front of the engine heat and with higher pressure air coming in through the grille. Just a guess though.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Okay, I have confimed that the Corvette transmission cooler is in the back of the car. Here is a link to a thread that has a video in it. At about the 5:10 mark, the guy talks about the transmission/differential cooling. Take a look:

http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...ues-track.html

So, that means the Camaro transmission cooler is a completely different setup altogether than the Corvette.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

Okay, I have confimed that the Corvette transmission cooler is in the back of the car. Here is a link to a thread that has a video in it. At about the 5:10 mark, the guy talks about the transmission/differential cooling. Take a look:

http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...ues-track.html

So, that means the Camaro transmission cooler is a completely different setup altogether than the Corvette.

That would make sense.

Since it looks like they're adding a completely separate cooler just for the automatic trans, that adds more weight than just the difference between the auto and the manual. And it would make sense that the driver-side auxiliary cooler (of the 3 separate ones) would connect to the oil pan in/out ports (which are on the same side) for engine oil cooling. If the main center cooler is for engine water, then the passenger side cooler could be for the manual trans.

Separate coolers for engine water, engine oil and trans oil would definitely do a better job than just trying to keep everything cool with an engine water radiator. The auto trans must get a lot hotter than the manual if they need an additional cooler for it.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by Doc

Are they going with a dry sump system or are those in/out ports for external cooling?

It is not a dry sump setup. You can see the cooling plates attached to the oil pan. In a dry sump, there is no big pan like that. But what I am not sure about is how the cooling is provided. Are those two ports for transmission oil to go out to a radiator, or are those two ports for engine coolant to come into the plates to provide cooling. If it is the latter, there would be no radiator for the oil cooling system.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

It is not a dry sump setup. You can see the cooling plates attached to the oil pan. In a dry sump, there is no big pan like that. But what I am not sure about is how the cooling is provided. Are those two ports for transmission oil to go out to a radiator, or are those two ports for engine coolant to come into the plates to provide cooling. If it is the latter, there would be no radiator for the oil cooling system.

In a normal dry sump you are correct, but they might have come up with a hybrid of sorts to allow for that heat sink setup which would explain the in/out ports but then where is the oil stored. That adds cost, complexity and weight. It just makes economic sense that those in/out ports are for a simple external cooler. If we can get an underbody shot of the SS with everything in place and connected we could tell immediately.

[SuperSound]

From everything shared, the 3 radiators are just for engine coolant since they shrunk the size of the radiator from the 5th gen. A 4th auto trans cooler is just behind the center radiator (in a horizontal position) and the engine oil cooler is the exact same as seen on the LT4 cutaway.

[CmeltoN91]

Originally Posted by Doc

In a normal dry sump you are correct, but they might have come up with a hybrid of sorts to allow for that heat sink setup which would explain the in/out ports but then where is the oil stored. That adds cost, complexity and weight. It just makes economic sense that those in/out ports are for a simple external cooler. If we can get an underbody shot of the SS with everything in place and connected we could tell immediately.

A hybrid wet/dry sump....soo a Damp Sump! I should work for GM marketing lol

[Doc]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

From everything shared, the 3 radiators are just for engine coolant since they shrunk the size of the radiator from the 5th gen. A 4th auto trans cooler is just behind the center radiator (in a horizontal position) and the engine oil cooler is the exact same as seen on the LT4 cutaway.

Shrinking the main radiator may simply mean they've gone with separate coolers for oil and trans so the main radiator doesn't need to be as big as before. You can clearly see in/out ports on the LT1 pic so there has to be more than just the heat sink plates for cooling. Unless they tell us specifically, we're probably going to have to wait until someone can take a picture of the underside to see how things are actually done.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by CmeltoN91

A hybrid wet/dry sump....soo a Damp Sump! I should work for GM marketing lol

Indeed... call it "sumpthing else" lol

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Doc

Shrinking the main radiator may simply mean they've gone with separate coolers for oil and trans so the main radiator doesn't need to be as big as before. You can clearly see in/out ports on the LT1 pic so there has to be more than just the heat sink plates for cooling. Unless they tell us specifically, we're probably going to have to wait until someone can take a picture of the underside to see how things are actually done.

No disagreements there. I think it is safe to say either way the setup is quite different from the C7, so we should expect different results.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Doc

In a normal dry sump you are correct, but they might have come up with a hybrid of sorts to allow for that heat sink setup which would explain the in/out ports but then where is the oil stored. That adds cost, complexity and weight. It just makes economic sense that those in/out ports are for a simple external cooler. If we can get an underbody shot of the SS with everything in place and connected we could tell immediately.

This has nothing to do with wet or dry sump. The Camaro LT1 is wet but the oil is circulated through the plate type heat exchanger to cool it. This is a common method for cooling oil and I've used bigger plate heat exchangers in hydraulic system design to do the same. My ZL1 has this too

[Denis]

the current Camaro's LS3 has a similar engine oil cooler.



as well as the LSA



the LT1 will have it as well...



so its safe to say that the Camaro will have the same setup. so that's one cooler out of the way. I also have read that the three radiators are for engine coolant and separate coolers will be present for other fluids such as transmission and oil.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by Denis

the current Camaro's LS3 has a similar engine oil cooler.



as well as the LSA



the LT1 will have it as well...



so its safe to say that the Camaro will have the same setup. so that's one cooler out of the way. I also have read that the three radiators are for engine coolant and separate coolers will be present for other fluids such as transmission and oil.

I am not an expert, but the oil cooling plates on the Camaro LT1 are different from the Corvette LT1 based on the images provided. The Camaro plates have two ports on it, and the other does not. Could those two ports be so oil can go out to a radiator? Or could those ports bring engine coolant to the plates for cooling? If it is the latter, this would explain everything. Three radiators for engine coolant at right angles, one at the bottom of the box for transmission fluid cooling, and an oil cooler attached to the oil pan that receives engine coolant to cool the oil.

[SuperSound]

Or is it just the cooling plates aren't installed on the one picture we have of the LT1 Camaro engine? Need more pictures of the SS for sure.