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4 Cylinder Turbo | 29 | 38.67% | |
V6 | 46 | 61.33% | |
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06-06-2015, 09:51 PM | #15 | |
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06-07-2015, 04:26 AM | #16 |
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06-07-2015, 09:39 AM | #17 |
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I have an '11 V6 Auto, and absolutely love it for my daily driver. The Gen6 is going to be even better. My V6 has 312HP, and the new one is 335. Plus the new auto is an 8spd over the 6spd I have. It took a little getting used to using the paddle shifters (I only use them once in a while), but once I did, I stopped missing the manual altogether. Now that the automatics are faster, and the paddle shifters became second nature in the same way a stick is second nature for me, I will never go back.
I would have loved to be able to get the Dual Mode Exhaust, but it wasn't available back then. Now you can get that with the V6 (in either transmission). I absolutely love the blue you are thinking of getting. Are you going with silver or black wheels? |
06-07-2015, 09:46 AM | #18 | |
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06-07-2015, 09:51 AM | #19 | |
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Getting a college degree if nothing else shows you can apply yourself to a long term, difficult task and deliver. The longer term view is, at least in my field, it teaches and trains a technical thought process and problems solving skills that are required for the job. Yes, these can be obtained with on the job training, but all things being equal why wouldn't I hire the college graduate over a non college graduate?? And in today's job market, you pretty much have that choice as an employer. My company for example requires a 4 year engineering degree to even be considered for an engineering position. So does GM, Ford, FCA, etc. The reason, as you know, that he is getting the raise now is that his degree makes him much, much more marketable. The OP can go out and look for a job and complete for a job where the degree is the minimum requirement. Just being good at what you do and not having a degree in many fields will not land you a job. But of course you already know that. So you are correct, without the degree, his employer could simply pay the OP for delivery. But his employer doesn't have to worry about departure because OP is less marketable. 30 years ago, I hired in to GM and yes there were engineers without degrees. They worked there way off the board from drafting/design to engineering positions. That simply isn't possible now. Oh, and OP, go drive an ATS with the V6 and L4 turbo. You can make your decision based on that comparison. No need to wait. The V6 will be slightly better in the Camaro, but the L4 will be a real good comparison on how fun the car can be. Mrs. Number 3's ATS is 2.0T with AWD and it's quite fun.
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06-07-2015, 10:28 AM | #20 | |
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You got your job 19 years ago. You've been in some sort of management role for 15 years now. Today's job market is completely different. I can tell you for my position with state government, a college degree is required. I think the only loophole around it is a ridiculous amount of experience (talking 10+ years in the industry) or military service. The days of "Oh I just walked in and asked the guy for a job, and I've been working there for 20 years now" are pretty much over. It's all about how well you can pack your resume and who you know.
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06-07-2015, 10:50 AM | #21 |
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Just another run of the mill, "should I buy a xxxx or yyyyy" thread turning into a discussion on career planning and personal finances.
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06-07-2015, 11:10 AM | #22 | |
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Without a degree, a significant portion of the market is closed to you. I learned a lot too.
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06-07-2015, 11:11 AM | #23 | |
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06-07-2015, 11:24 AM | #24 |
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I think the question should be asked...how much do you want to spend?
The base car with turbo 4 is likely going to start around 23,500 to 24,500 range. V6 option will likely come with a few more basic options and start around 26,000+. A V6 with the RS package, 1LT (no leather), automatic transmission is likely going to be in the 29 - 30 range or greater. The MSRP on my 2010 1LT V6 with RS, and a few interior upgrades (stereo and convenience package) brought the MSRP up to over 29K. You can bet this time around its going to be even more expensive so I'd expect 30K for that or more. So does 30K or slightly more fit with your costs planning? If not, you might want the turbo 4, which should end up being a little cheaper. I'm planning on either a mostly loaded 2LT V6 or a 1SS. I'm expecting the 2LT/RS/automatic to be at least 33K or more. If it comes out under that I'll be pleasantly surprised. As for performance, the V6 is going to be slighter faster....moreso as the rpms pick up and the speeds increase. But driving around the city and in short 0 - 60 bursts the turbo 4 shouldn't be much behind the V6. Maybe a few tenths in 0 - 60 if that. The V6 (with dual mode exhaust) will sound better for sure. If you plan to mod....the turbo 4 with just a tune will gain a lot of performance....mostly a ton of torque. The V6 on the other hand should be capable of 350 HP or so with 2 or 3 basic bolt ons....and maybe even more with a tune. Best of luck!
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06-07-2015, 11:25 AM | #25 |
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I would drive both before I made a decision. They gave me a turbo 4 ATS while my other car was in the shop and it was peppy but I didn't like it.
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06-07-2015, 11:32 AM | #26 | |
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The following story was very influential in the way I go about hiring software engineers: http://braythwayt.com/posterous/2014...ky-people.html Now here's the trick: There's a 30% deficit in qualified software engineers and ~50% of those who enter computer science drop out or fail. Of those left, only a small percentage will ever add up to quality material. With a market like that one can argue that spending your time online learning everything you can about how to be a top notch engineer is a better use of your time and money. It's the path I took, but I have to warn you: It's not for the feignt of heart. REAL commitment is necessary to go this path. You will always be fighting to get that much better, and for some people it will never be enough. You must be willing to take severe criticism, say thank you, and come back 10,000x stronger because you extracted useful information from what was intended to be a put-down. That being said, if your chosen industry does not have a qualified candidate problem then your competition is much stiffer. A degree may be a very important point of competition. There's no right or wrong answer here. Simply that you either have to understand the market you're entering or you have to roll the dice. If you do understand the market, you can make smart decisions about how to approach entry and enployment. If you don't understand it, a degree is the best way to roll the dice that exists today.
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06-07-2015, 02:48 PM | #28 | |
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I think I would prefer the silver wheels on the blue you were interested in. If I got the dark blue, I think the black wheels might be my preference. |
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