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Wizard1183 · 10-04-2017, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010reddevil

I just think it's very stupid. That means that you won't be able to travel, unless it's via train. Charge times are very prohibitive of any sort ofong distance travel. They need to make ethanol. It burns cleaner, makes more power and is renewable to boot. Problem solved.

Read this. By the time they instill electric vehicles as the majority of vehicles on the road? Technology will be advanced enough for wireless charging on the road.

http://theconversation.com/wired-up-...-driving-72625

4ME2DRV · 10-04-2017, 07:55 AM

What ever happened to Honda's Hydrogen car they were leasing in limited numbers years ago?? Did that project fail?

gen5dewy · 10-04-2017, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hixson

On a related note - as sad as it is, the gearhead generation is getting old and our newer generations just aren't that interested in DIY gas cars and building muscle cars. I'm in my mid 20s and I am hands down the only person in my large group of friends that knows anything about building, fixing, talking about, or modding cars. Most of them are more worried about leasing a civic to save money for travelling or paying off our $100,000 in student loans lol. Just look at Harley Davidson sales and shit, were phasing out the HogLife lifestyle too.

I can agree with this. Also being 22 going on 23 its random to find a group that knows about cars. I have found a way to get most of my friends to be car nuts like me. I am also one of the luck few to make it out of a 4 year college without any loans, mostly thanks to amazing parents and grandparents who were saving before I was born. I do not want to see the gearhead generation die off. I only hope I can learn some more off of the order generations before the knowledge is lost forever

Lonewolf583 · 10-04-2017, 08:38 AM

Did anyone else notice this thing sitting in the lineup? I'm sure GM is well aware a good portion of their loyal fan-base is keen on performance. I for one given an inevitable electric future welcome the notion. That said, this could just be an existing concept, and I'm looking too much into it.

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IMadeYouReadThis · 10-04-2017, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf583

Did anyone else notice this thing sitting in the lineup? I'm sure GM is well aware a good portion of their loyal fan-base is keen on performance. I for one given an inevitable electric future welcome the notion. That said, this could just be an existing concept, and I'm looking too much into it.

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Looks like an electric Camaro to me.

5thGenOwner · 10-04-2017, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 4ME2DRV

What ever happened to Honda's Hydrogen car they were leasing in limited numbers years ago?? Did that project fail?

I dunno about Honda, but Toyota is selling one:

https://ssl.toyota.com/mirai/fcv.htm...4Dsw&gclsrc=ds

I have a co-worker who owns one.

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I can agree with this. Also being 22 going on 23 its random to find a group that knows about cars. I have found a way to get most of my friends to be car nuts like me. I am also one of the luck few to make it out of a 4 year college without any loans, mostly thanks to amazing parents and grandparents who were saving before I was born. I do not want to see the gearhead generation die off. I only hope I can learn some more off of the order generations before the knowledge is lost forever

My first reaction was to say that this is 'sad'. And it is true, I haven't come across anyone in their 20's who knows anything more than putting gas in their car.

But... the more I think about it, I don't believe the love of the automobile (gearheads) will completely die off. There are still people, like you, who will keep it alive. In fact, it will become a much tighter knit group of people... and with the internet, they don't have to be your next door neighbor or classmate. Gearheads can be on the opposite sides of the globe and still share their passion.

Stormcloak · 10-04-2017, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by IMadeYouReadThis

Looks like an electric Camaro to me.

Looks like "nope, no thanks" to me

IMadeYouReadThis · 10-04-2017, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stormcloak

Looks like "nope, no thanks" to me

Lol Awesome.

frenchsquared · 10-04-2017, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gen5dewy

Thats not a bad idea. Hell E85 is basically moonshine with some gas in it. It's renewable and easyish to make

This is actually false. Its another one of those good ideas that doesn't actually work. It is only affordable because the tax payers actually pay the famers a bonus for growing it. Yep... your taxes cover the cost instead of a tax on the fuel.

Next... it cost more to make in fuel, soil damage and effort then it actually nets.
If you remove the government assistance it would fail immediately. The hope was farmers would get better at growing it and/or turning it into fuel would get cheaper and easier. Neither happened.

I do know a few famers who are living very well off the government assistance. They love the cash, but have said it was a bad idea since day one.

frenchsquared · 10-04-2017, 12:33 PM

This is one of the reasons I own a Z28. There is a good chance it will be one of the last great engines ever produced.

102SS · 10-04-2017, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by IMadeYouReadThis

Looks like an electric Camaro to me.

Looks like a fossil fuel burning Camaro thats been covered to me

Norm Peterson · 10-04-2017, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by IMadeYouReadThis

I was very surprised to read this. I guess we knew for a while this was on the way it's just crazy to hear it from the horse's mouth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f2c7077a2d9c

It's not an announcement of the end of the ICE, it's only an announcement that GM plans to eventually stop building cars so powered. Possibly in response/reaction to Volvo's fairly recent similar announcement.

Nothing about any of the proposed vehicles

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Although GM would not provide details about the upcoming models, it showed reporters three different concepts: a sporty crossover, a larger wagon or SUV and a tall, boxy pod car that looked like a people-mover for cities.

interests me in the slightest. No matter who might plan to build them or how fast they might actually be.

Norm

Lonewolf583 · 10-04-2017, 07:24 PM

Not directed at anyone but each his/her own. You bet your butt I'll be keeping my Gen5 AND hooning the crap out of whatever the electric overlords present us. And if "we" the collective performance/enthusiast market don't present demand for such a product you can say goodbye to that segment in 10 years. If it doesn't make sense they won't do it.

oldman14ss · 10-04-2017, 08:05 PM

I've been an electrician for 34 years and have been working solar for the past 4 and the utility companies own the solar and wind fields that's why your price hasn't gone down they inflate and say they are giving you credit for putting back into the system. look up what is called graphene ? Spanish scientists were given a grant to develop it. I'm getting older and forgetting. but it will be developed to impregnate the roads and your car will ride along and constantly charge similar to the old slot cars but real life. car panels will be made of it it charges just like a solar panel . the roof of your car will be made of it to convert sun power. I'm telling you folks graphene or a derivative there of is coming. you want to be a millionaire invest in it. it's coming we have not had a founding technology since the cell phone. and that's been at least 30 years ago.

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4ME2DRV Drives: 2015 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2015 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 56 View My Garage	What ever happened to Honda's Hydrogen car they were leasing in limited numbers years ago?? Did that project fail? __________________ *2015 Camaro SS*

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Lonewolf583 Apex Predator Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Rally Yellow Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Seymour, IN Posts: 238	At least we have this to look forward to? Did anyone else notice this thing sitting in the lineup? I'm sure GM is well aware a good portion of their loyal fan-base is keen on performance. I for one given an inevitable electric future welcome the notion. That said, this could just be an existing concept, and I'm looking too much into it. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3/TR6060, Paid Off \o/ Beating physics into submission since 1991.

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frenchsquared Drives: 15 Z28, 01 Corvette, 96 Corvette Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 863	This is one of the reasons I own a Z28. There is a good chance it will be one of the last great engines ever produced. __________________ 2018 Sierra RCSB \| 2015 Z28 Camaro \| 1989 B2200 with a 327 \| 1996 LT4 Z51 Corvette \| 1973 427 Nova

10-04-2017, 07:24 PM	#69
Lonewolf583 Apex Predator Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Rally Yellow Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Seymour, IN Posts: 238	Not directed at anyone but each his/her own. You bet your butt I'll be keeping my Gen5 AND hooning the crap out of whatever the electric overlords present us. And if "we" the collective performance/enthusiast market don't present demand for such a product you can say goodbye to that segment in 10 years. If it doesn't make sense they won't do it. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS - LS3/TR6060, Paid Off \o/ Beating physics into submission since 1991.

10-04-2017, 08:05 PM	#70
oldman14ss Drives: 2014 1ss camaro Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: missouri Posts: 705	I've been an electrician for 34 years and have been working solar for the past 4 and the utility companies own the solar and wind fields that's why your price hasn't gone down they inflate and say they are giving you credit for putting back into the system. look up what is called graphene ? Spanish scientists were given a grant to develop it. I'm getting older and forgetting. but it will be developed to impregnate the roads and your car will ride along and constantly charge similar to the old slot cars but real life. car panels will be made of it it charges just like a solar panel . the roof of your car will be made of it to convert sun power. I'm telling you folks graphene or a derivative there of is coming. you want to be a millionaire invest in it. it's coming we have not had a founding technology since the cell phone. and that's been at least 30 years ago.