[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by SomeGeoffGuy

I was just passing along my experience. My point being, be careful what you wish for. you might just be trading one problem for another.

-Geoff

Understood. I didn't even know it was the rotors till I heard someone else complain. Then found the numerous threads about it. Thought GM had moved past those 4th gen days.

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[1fujifilm]

Originally Posted by douglas2742

"Ive got nothing but praise to say about the Z26 pads. As advertised, brake dust is almost completely gone keeping my wheels clean. Before I had to clean them virtually after each drive!

Fudge yes, stock pads totally suck! I would argue a pad cannot work well unless they drop dust. Why is it my 2500 Chev plow truck has no dust and it is under duty with a 1,600 plow plus harder stops? I don't buy it; I did buy the Z-26 pads (got em at autoanything with a jegs price match for $124.19 all in for front and back) now that is a deal. Strange thing, Chev makes my truck and car; cant they work together?

Bear

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by 1fujifilm

Fudge yes, stock pads totally suck! I would argue a pad cannot work well unless they drop dust. Why is it my 2500 Chev plow truck has no dust and it is under duty with a 1,600 plow plus harder stops? I don't buy it; I did buy the Z-26 pads (got em at autoanything with a jegs price match for $124.19 all in for front and back) now that is a deal. Strange thing, Chev makes my truck and car; cant they work together?

Bear

Do your truck brake pads and rotors wear out?

[gpskinzhut]

Did these 9000 miles ago. No discernible difference in stopping performance for me and have had plenty of panic stops with the way chodes around here drive. Dust is minimal which was the real benefit.

While there could be a very minor difference in performance, let's not go fear-mongering and make it out like moving to theses causes and increase of 10 ft in stopping 60-0 or you're Indiana Jones on a mine cart and your stick brake just broke off.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Brakes work by friction. The byproducts of brake friction are heat and dust. The better the brake pad, the dirtier and noisy they are. Racing brakes make the squeal of a screaming squealing pig sound like music and they make dust faster than Pig Pen in Peanuts.

There is no such thing as a pad that stops as well and yet by some magic makes less dust. I wish there were. 99.999% of the time most people will never ever need the ALL the power of the excellent pads supplied by Chevy for the 5th and 6th Gen Camaros. They are, in my opinion, the best combination street drive / light track pads available. Stepping down for less dust may never hurt you. However, should you ever be distracted while driving and need to stop before rear ending the car in front of you, those few inches may be the difference between and accident and a close call. God forbid a child dart out between cars on a residential street when inches become life and death.

I am not being critical, just trying to be informative, and accurate among a sea of marketing and web based mis-information.

Originally Posted by gpskinzhut

Did these 9000 miles ago. No discernible difference in stopping performance for me and have had plenty of panic stops with the way chodes around here drive. Dust is minimal which was the real benefit.

While there could be a very minor difference in performance, let's not go fear-mongering and make it out like moving to theses causes and increase of 10 ft in stopping 60-0 or you're Indiana Jones on a mine cart and your stick brake just broke off.

Fear mongering?

There are times when a few inches will be the difference between an accident and possibly life and death. No fear-mongering. Reality.

[KMPrenger]

I'll just say that if I was going to be doing a few track days with my car, I would have left the stock pads on, if for no other reason than just b/c that's what Chevy put on there as part of making the car track capable from the factory.

But my Camaro will never see brake punishment even remotely close to being on a race track. It will basically be nothing more than what amounts to a casual driver with some "spirited" sprints thrown in.

So for me, these pads are fantastic. For others in different situations maybe not. But brake feel and response in regular driving seems no different to me.

[gpskinzhut]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Fear mongering?

There are times when a few inches will be the difference between an accident and possibly life and death. No fear-mongering. Reality.

Lots of drag guys swap to V6 brakes to clear 15” wheels. Don’t know how there’s any of them left as they’ve surely all died on their maiden drives. Realism is that there are any number of variables in daily use that are far FAR less controlled than in track use because the tolerances and extremes just aren’t there. As your brake wear, tire wear, type and pressure, road conditions, precipitation and a million other variables will have a greater effect for daily normal use than swapping to these pads will. You also tend to compensate as your components wear and/or lose peak function. It’s not a sudden “OMG I CANT STOP”.

It’s exaggeration when we’re talking day to day use. If you want to go with track experience i’ll defer to you all day long. It’s a different environment completely. This? No. There’s no huge difference.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by gpskinzhut

Lots of drag guys swap to V6 brakes to clear 15” wheels. Don’t know how there’s any of them left as they’ve surely all died on their maiden drives. Realism is that there are any number of variables in daily use that are far FAR less controlled than in track use because the tolerances and extremes just aren’t there. As your brake wear, tire wear, type and pressure, road conditions, precipitation and a million other variables will have a greater effect for daily normal use than swapping to these pads will. You also tend to compensate as your components wear and/or lose peak function. It’s not a sudden “OMG I CANT STOP”.

It’s exaggeration when we’re talking day to day use. If you want to go with track experience i’ll defer to you all day long. It’s a different environment completely. This? No. There’s no huge difference.

Inches is an exaggeration?

Drag guys swapping out the rear brakes is only a good idea for the drag strip.

SMH...

[1fujifilm]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Do your truck brake pads and rotors wear out?

I sell after 30k miles or about 1.5 years and never put tires or brakes on my trucks. I even put boats on in the summer and sleds on in the winter with trailers and they still don't wear out or dust. These are Ram 1500's, back in the day new Ford's were as bad as our Camaro's are; to me the manufacturer tries to save a new bucks and it gets us.

Bear

[V8Snob]

Wheels don't look good and the caliper covers are pretty bad.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by 1fujifilm

I sell after 30k miles or about 1.5 years and never put tires or brakes on my trucks. I even put boats on in the summer and sleds on in the winter with trailers and they still don't wear out or dust. These are Ram 1500's, back in the day new Ford's were as bad as our Camaro's are; to me the manufacturer tries to save a new bucks and it gets us.

Bear

They do wear out. As they wear, the rotor is ground away making dust. As the pads are ground away, they make dust. Where do you think the rubber goes as your tires wear out?

[Homer2]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

They do wear out. As they wear, the rotor is ground away making dust. As the pads are ground away, they make dust. Where do you think the rubber goes as your tires wear out?

Oh.. you are one of those.

[enzia35]

I'll get a set once the stock ones wear out.

[HB1SS]

Proper Bedding is a big help. If you bed the stock setup from new as most do with aftermarket pads you will see excellent results. During bedding you will have dust all over the wheels and side of the car but if you bed properly like suggested by the stoptech site everything will be good. I can go hundreds of miles with the stock pads and do a wipe down with little dust. Prior to this car I had BMW's and they have much softer pads with more dust if not bedded.