[Sledgehammer70]

I fully expect all car outlets to have reviews, previews and hard core metrics and tests tomorrow.

Unlike Ford with the GT350 and GT350R, I am going to assume GM is allowing press to go nuts with the cars. All the Ford reviews and previews are .est numbers. Ford is still not allowing press to reveal true numbers.

This has been hinted at with GM allowing Hot Rod and Automobile Mag to post little tidbits over the last weeks.

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In realistic terms, the 2016 SS will be nipping at the heals of the 2015 ZL1. The Z/28 is just to refined for a 2016 SS to catch up too. The base 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are telling of the ZL1 butt kissing.

The only Camaro to take on the new GT350 or R is going to be maybe the new 1LE or Z variants, but in general I see those cars crushing the GT350x. Look at the Corvette Z06, the GT350 can't touch it and I think it is a safe bet the next Z variant will sport the same motor.

[bhavyas]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

Look at the Corvette Z06, the GT350 can't touch it and I think it is a safe bet the next Z variant will sport the same motor.

I always think its NOT fair to compare the corvette Z06 with the GT350. One is mainly it costs 30k+ more than the GT350. Two the 350 is NA engine while the Z06 is supercharged V8 with more than 100HP difference and more than 200Lb-ft torque difference. The ZL1/Z28 may crush the Gt350 and I m pretty sure it will, but then I love NA engines and Fords got this one right.. I know I will get a lot of hate for this, but if I did have that kind of money, it would have been a tough choice between GT350 and ZL1.

[TJ91]

Longest wait of my life
Every minute feels like an hour

[FenwickHockey65]

There's a chance someone will leak before midnight.

[Bosse'sBoss]

I'm sure that the new '16 SS will lap faster compared to the 1LE, BOSS (including Laguna Seca) and Dodge products as well of the BMW M3 & M4. My question how will it go VS the actual ZL1 lap times. I guess that the ZL1 should be faster, but taking in consideration of the less weight of the 6th. gen SS, who knows? ��

[Whis]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I should just take the day off tomorrow.

I'm not going to get a damn thing done.

My dealer dropped that the embargo ends at 9PST tomorrow :( :( :( too late

wondering if anyone at MT or other review outlets will even have people on staff to convert/upload videos at that awful time on a fri

[Whis]

let's hope he is wrong

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Whis

My dealer dropped that the embargo ends at 9PST tomorrow :( :( :( too late

wondering if anyone at MT or other review outlets will even have people on staff to convert/upload videos at that awful time on a fri

That's 12AM ET which would be the 17th. So probably not right. Detroit is on ET at least.

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

I don't understand his whole fascination with weight, it's how the car performs is what matters to me. The 1le weighs more then the GTPP yet beats it on the track. The ATS V weighs the same, yet can beat the GTPP by 6 sec at VIR. Heck the new GT350 with TP is near 3800lbs. Yet he throughs a tantrum when the ATS V come in at 3800lbs, and demands apology from those who question him. Wow, he got one guess right.

Some of y'all are wrapped way to tight around the pills finger. Anytime someone questions something or doubts what GM says y'all instantly bring that dude up. I've always doubted the weight loss and addmited I was wrong when they gave us numbers. Now we will see if that was a lie or not. Won't be the first time they've lied if its true. Time will tell.

[Sledgehammer70]

Originally Posted by bhavyas

I always think its NOT fair to compare the corvette Z06 with the GT350. One is mainly it costs 30k+ more than the GT350. Two the 350 is NA engine while the Z06 is supercharged V8 with more than 100HP difference and more than 200Lb-ft torque difference. The ZL1/Z28 may crush the Gt350 and I m pretty sure it will, but then I love NA engines and Fords got this one right.. I know I will get a lot of hate for this, but if I did have that kind of money, it would have been a tough choice between GT350 and ZL1.

Ford has made it hard to compare their offerings. It's this way for the I4 and V6 and now their higher end track cars... a standard 350 and a 350R.

The Z/28 outperformed the ZL1 and the ZL1 had 75 more hp and was not NA. Overall the lines are blurring. If Ford was to roll out a GT500 again, which I doubt will be coming anytime soon, it will be a SC GT350 motor. But we do know we have 3 different higher profile Camaros incoming.

We all know the Z/28 price point would have been a lot less without the carbon brakes. It looks like they learned a thing or two since it's release. I have a feeling the next Z/28 will be a 1LE type car with a bigger motor.

But back to being on topic. Tomorrow it will rain Camaro news

[Bhobbs]

I don't see them boosting the Voodoo for the GT500. If they do stick with the 5.2, it would be CPC. I wouldn't be surprised if if was twin turbo'd with direct and port injection.

[EstebanVerde]

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In realistic terms, the 2016 SS will be nipping at the heals of the 2015 ZL1. The Z/28 is just to refined for a 2016 SS to catch up too. The base 0-60 and 1/4 mile results are telling of the ZL1 butt kissing.

The only Camaro to take on the new GT350 or R is going to be maybe the new 1LE or Z variants, but in general I see those cars crushing the GT350x. Look at the Corvette Z06, the GT350 can't touch it and I think it is a safe bet the next Z variant will sport the same motor.[/QUOTE]

The ZL1 is definitely the right comparison for 16 SS.. Mark Reuss even hinted that was the aim in motor trend before we had any real details. I'm just surprised they really delivered. SS will be a great car

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by mcsoul

I'd say since the 1LE took the Boss 302 Laguna Seca around an race track.

The Boss 302 is not a Shelby FYI...

[Bosse'sBoss]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

The Boss 302 is not a Shelby FYI...

I know I'm not talking about the Shelby