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Old 04-18-2023, 06:24 PM   #547
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You get the feeling they are just extending production to a 24 MY to exhaust their parts inventory on the way to clearing the books on the gen 6. Bit of stating the obvious but with as much time as it has taken to get a 23,you have to wonder how many 24's will actually get built in five months of production. Did the same with the Z4C, it's an easy out for them.
I agree.
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Old 04-18-2023, 06:47 PM   #548
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I agree.
There isn’t much in inventory. Very rare for any supplier to make parts and store them hoping an OEM will buy them.

And the only parts GM does make, stampings aren’t made ahead.
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Old 04-18-2023, 07:08 PM   #549
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We can only hope that the vinyl stickers and graphics suppliers to GM can hold up their their commitments so to fulfil the death of Camaro.

Much like wearing a TIE DIED T shirt to a family funeral.
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Old 04-19-2023, 08:29 AM   #550
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I kinda like the yellow, it would look good on a 1LE.
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Old 04-19-2023, 08:37 AM   #551
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8 years and not one power bump. Not one performance pack option offered. Sad. Unless GM gets someone with balls to run that outfit my Camaro is my last GM product. Sad...No John DeLoreans, Duntovs, Harley Earls or Billy Mitchell's or other GM legends anymore. Look at them now...a bunch of woke no names!
Not me... I LOVE my Tahoe. Would never buy another SUV. I've owned a Tahoe since 97-98... Currently own a 2018
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Old 04-19-2023, 09:24 AM   #552
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damn, only 455 HP. i remember the good ol' days of 320 , and even 230 !
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Old 04-19-2023, 09:57 AM   #553
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8 years and not one power bump.
All a matter of perspective. I'll take Oppenheiser in 2017 for ~200hp, Alex.

Yes, that's right, there was a 200hp (okay 195 for you pedantic shits) power bump 1 year in, and it came in a convertible. How many model years was it when Ford released the 6th gen GT500? The GT500 convertible? And Dodge the convertible hellcat? Oh yeah, right.

Say it with me now:

SIX-HUNDRED FIFTY HORSEPOWER CONVERTIBLE

... as a factory option in the 2nd year.
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Old 04-19-2023, 10:42 AM   #554
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damn, only 455 HP. i remember the good ol' days of 320 , and even 230 !
I feel your pain.

Drove a used '82 Pace Car my senior year of high school. Total of 165 glorious horses backed by a 3 speed automatic at a time when fuel injected 5.0s and intercooled turbo 3.8s were terrorizing the streets...
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Old 04-19-2023, 11:08 AM   #555
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8 years and not one power bump. Not one performance pack option offered. Sad. Unless GM gets someone with balls to run that outfit my Camaro is my last GM product. Sad...No John DeLoreans, Duntovs, Harley Earls or Billy Mitchell's or other GM legends anymore. Look at them now...a bunch of woke no names!
Don't forget Ed Welburn. If not for his vision our modern Camaros may not have been created.
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Old 04-19-2023, 11:58 AM   #556
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8 years and not one power bump. Not one performance pack option offered. Sad. Unless GM gets someone with balls to run that outfit my Camaro is my last GM product. Sad...No John DeLoreans, Duntovs, Harley Earls or Billy Mitchell's or other GM legends anymore. Look at them now...a bunch of woke no names!

Who cares? The power of the Camaro was never a problem. It's still the best performance car in its price brackets. The lack of a power bump is not the reason it sold poorly.

EDIT: And it did have a performance pack optioned. Ever heard of the 1LE?

You want power get an electric car, but that will apparently be to 'woke' for you, whatever that means...

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Old 04-19-2023, 03:09 PM   #557
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Yeah...sure we haven't seen much in the way of new high performance stuff on Camaro in a number of years, but some people seem to forget how much butt the Camaro kicked over the first 3 or 4 years of the 6th gen. We got the SS, the SS 1LE, the V6 1LE, the 2.0 1LE, the ZL1, and the ZL1 1LE, and the COPO. To this day, the 2016 Camaro SS is still a better drivers car than the brand new Mustang GT or the Challenger. But the Camaro was expensive (when the 2016 launched...the others caught up over the next year or two), a bit cramped on the inside, the least practical, hardest to see out of (although I think it's way overblown), and the advertising for it sucked hard.
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Old 04-19-2023, 04:35 PM   #558
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Yeah...sure we haven't seen much in the way of new high performance stuff on Camaro in a number of years, but some people seem to forget how much butt the Camaro kicked over the first 3 or 4 years of the 6th gen. We got the SS, the SS 1LE, the V6 1LE, the 2.0 1LE, the ZL1, and the ZL1 1LE, and the COPO. To this day, the 2016 Camaro SS is still a better drivers car than the brand new Mustang GT or the Challenger. But the Camaro was expensive (when the 2016 launched...the others caught up over the next year or two), a bit cramped on the inside, the least practical, hardest to see out of (although I think it's way overblown), and the advertising for it sucked hard.

Yep all of this. It's still the performance car benchmark in its price brackets. GM outdid themselves in that regard.

The issues with the car are not something a power bump could fix. A lot of people only think 'performance' means additional power.

Apparently the 1LE package isn't a performance upgrade because it doesn't add more power.
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Old 04-19-2023, 05:31 PM   #559
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Chevrolet has never really increased power on the Camaro or the Corvette incrementally.
They come out with a new generation, usually with a new engine and that's it. the 4th gen was an aberration with the LS1 coming in 1998. The 5thgen got no power increase in the SS and i don't remember any complaining.
the 6th got car of the year in 2016, then the 1LE came out, the ZL1, and then the ZL1/1le.
i never dreamed that a Camaro 'base performance V8' would have 455HP. i'd rather they drop the price or not increase it than spend money on a 10 or 15 HP increase.
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Old 04-20-2023, 11:15 AM   #560
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Chevrolet has never really increased power on the Camaro or the Corvette incrementally.
They come out with a new generation, usually with a new engine and that's it. the 4th gen was an aberration with the LS1 coming in 1998. The 5thgen got no power increase in the SS and i don't remember any complaining.
the 6th got car of the year in 2016, then the 1LE came out, the ZL1, and then the ZL1/1le.
i never dreamed that a Camaro 'base performance V8' would have 455HP. i'd rather they drop the price or not increase it than spend money on a 10 or 15 HP increase.
And look where it got them. Dead last in sales and now the Camaro is to be cancelled. GM seems to ignore the competition.
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