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Old 04-26-2011, 11:28 AM   #29
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somewhere on this site it was stated that gen 6 would be lighter with a smaller displacement V-8.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:03 PM   #30
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:05 PM   #31
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Maybe it will be FWD also.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:14 PM   #32
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:37 PM   #33
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Old 04-26-2011, 01:17 PM   #34
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:00 PM   #35
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Scott talked about it last year. of course to early to tell, but he said V8's, sure, BUT, may be to expensive for the average joe.Turbo v6's is what may be in the cards.
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:31 PM   #36
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Scott talked about it last year. of course to early to tell, but he said V8's, sure, BUT, may be to expensive for the average joe.Turbo v6's is what may be in the cards.
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:36 PM   #37
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:58 PM   #38
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Actually a V8 can be just as efficient as a V6 - in some cases even more so. What with advanced cylendar control you can cruise with only 4 cylendars active. Power wise im guessing those engines compared with each other would be about the same.

So the question then would become - do you need to spend the money on the extra raw material to prodcue a V8 when a V6 will produce the same power and have about the same MPG.
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Old 04-26-2011, 04:13 PM   #39
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Actually a V8 can be just as efficient as a V6 - in some cases even more so. What with advanced cylendar control you can cruise with only 4 cylendars active. Power wise im guessing those engines compared with each other would be about the same.

So the question then would become - do you need to spend the money on the extra raw material to prodcue a V8 when a V6 will produce the same power and have about the same MPG.

It's the sound of a v8 that can't be replicated. I will pay extra $$$ until the end of days to have my v8s. I have a 300hp v6 acura. Sure it's a powerful car, but it is refined and almost finesse.... I want my uncontrollable beast v8 thats fish tailing everywhere and setting off car alarms in parking lots.
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Old 04-26-2011, 04:58 PM   #40
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The 5.5L is a race-only engine. I'm not sure why so many folks are thinking it'll automatically be the Gen V's displacement.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:07 PM   #41
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:30 PM   #42
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Sure. History always repeats itself. 4 and 6-cyl Camaros will be the wave of the future. They will call it the Camaro II. Akerson will personally oversee its development as he considers it to be his "little jewel." It will be based on the Cruze to save money, and have an optional MPG package with fuel economy tires and an ultra high gear ratio. Then GM will come to their senses, and once the 7th gen launches, every Camaro fan on earth will do all that is necessary to never think of the 6th gen again.

Ok, now to be serious. There are too many potential buyers in this market segment (including me) that would never consider the car unless it had an AFFORDABLE V-8 option (No just having a V-8 ZL1 and calling it a day). My actual prediction for the 6th gen: A somewhat smaller displacement V8 (close to 5.5L, though not necessary exactly) with direct injection. It will have roughly the same output as the LS3, which will mean better performance in the lighter 6th gen platform. The DI, smaller displacement, and lighter car (plus other efficiencies that are always being found) will bring the EPA rating up to 27-28 hwy. (Which will probably bring it to about the 35mpg standard given the rating system used to calculate CAFE).

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I dunno, by then we will probably have V6s pumping out the same numbers as current V8s.
We do have V6's today making the same power as V8s from 5-10 years ago, but it is not the same. They don't sound like a V8, and more importantly, that power is always up around 7000 RPM with no torque on the low end, which defeats the entire purpose of having a Camaro. Works great for a rice burner tuner, but not for a muscle car.

A turbo can solve the torque problem, and I might be interested when a 20 year/200K mile powertrain warranty comes with it.

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The 5.5L is a race-only engine. I'm not sure why so many folks are thinking it'll automatically be the Gen V's displacement.
It makes sense to use it as a starting point rather than start from scratch. The displacement is about right too. It's basically what Ford did with the new 5.0L.
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