2012 Camaro ZL 1 VS CTS V coupe - Page 3 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

DevilKnightFalcon · 02-11-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurdib

Nope, because teh CTS-V is AUTO

Freakin Chevy, Atleast Cady cares

I am willing to bet that GM offers an automatic transmission for the ZL1. Have faith.

ULTRAZLS1 · 02-11-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SVT_SRT

GT500- 3850 lbs
Camaro ZL1- just over 4200

The camaro also has better suspension and will probably have much better traction that being said they are going to ber very close. Except the zl1 is going to be a big boy. Either way i'll be purchasing a ZL1

You think it is going to be 350 lbs heavier than the manual SS at 3860?

They have already stated they worked on some mass reduction. The car has an electric power steering system (more power also), lighter wheels (22 lbs lighter) and a carbon hood insert just for starters. They added weight with the supercharger and cast differential.

My guess is ~4000.

I wouldnt be surprised if GM made it a goal to keep the car at or under 4k pounds.

It will have more power than the V if only for the power steering pump (and im sure some other things) and be a couple hundred pounds lighter. I am not sure why it would not outperform it in every way. From the looks of what they have done with the car the handling should be phenomenal.

Autobots · 02-11-2011, 04:26 PM

Not sure what will be faster. But while the live chat was goin on with the ppl from gm the other day, Someone ask if the zl1 will keep up with the gt500? and one of the ppl from gm said
Better yet do you think the gt500 will keep with the zl1?

Just sounds to me like they are saying its more then a little faster, But still to early to tell, But do we knoe it will be one bad mofo for sure.

nhra stocker · 02-11-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rez333

The Caddy WILL beat the ZL1 by virtue of its racing configured transmission which no manual transmission will ever beat.

Not at the dragstrip!

SSmoked · 02-11-2011, 05:00 PM

^^ i dont know about that. autos are stupid proof at the strip. get on the gas and watch as it grabs perfect shifts each time. stick cars is trying to perfect the rpm/clutch realse/ on the gas, than shifting at peak power everytime.

This will be interesting. I cant wait to we actully see what the ZL1 does on the road course compared to the gt500. the caddy is one badass 4-door tho.

*radz28* · 02-11-2011, 05:07 PM

I don't think ZL1 will be as heavy as CTS-V. I think ZL1 will get closer to 600 horse' than CTS-V is. I think a MT ZL1 will have a hard time staying in front of an AT CTS-V, but if GM gets an AT in the ZL1, it will be a clear acceleration winner.

Vega · 02-11-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by radz28

I don't think ZL1 will be as heavy as CTS-V. I think ZL1 will get closer to 600 horse' than CTS-V is. I think a MT ZL1 will have a hard time staying in front of an AT CTS-V, but if GM gets an AT in the ZL1, it will be a clear acceleration winner.

Agreed, and we've seen before when GM would bump the HP of a motor in certain models over other models (such as the LS1s in Camaros vs. Vettes) id bet the ZL1 will pick up some horses off re-tuning alone. Also the Camaro has the Vette-inspired exhaust, and 3.73 gears. Aside from all that i cant ever imagine a Camaro being heavier than a Cadillac haha, so manual tranny or not my vote goes to the sports car over the luxury car =P

christianmotox · 02-11-2011, 05:27 PM

I think the ZL1 will win.

The CTS-V coupe weights 4237lbs with an auto tranny
The CTS-V Sedan weights 4222lbs with a manual.
I honestly don't think the ZL1 will weight more than 4000 lbs.

Plus both CTS-V's are running 285/35R19 rears
and the ZL1 is running Sticky's 305/35-20 rears

All that Plus, i think the ZL1 will put down more HP and torque than the CTS-V

I personally am almost 100% sure the ZL1 will beat the CTS-V

Vega · 02-11-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by christianmotox

I think the ZR1 will win.

The CTS-V coupe weights 4237lbs with an auto tranny
The CTS-V Sedan weights 4222lbs with a manual.
I honestly don't think the ZR1 will weight more than 4000 lbs.

Plus both CTS-V's are running 285/35R19 rears
and the ZR1 is running Sticky's 305/35-20 rears

All that Plus, i think the ZR1 will put down more HP and torque than the CTS-V

I personally am almost 100% sure the ZR1 will beat the CTS-V

ZL1

im pretty sure we can all agree that a ZR1 would own a CTS-V or ZL1 haha

christianmotox · 02-11-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vega

ZL1

im pretty sure we can all agree that a ZR1 would own a CTS-V or ZL1 haha

Holly Crap..... I need to drink a red bull to wake up LOL

Fixed it though.

Vega · 02-11-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by christianmotox

Holly Crap..... I need to drink a red bull to wake up LOL

Fixed it though.

LOL, you're not the only one, i almost just re-posted the exact same comment again like 15 minutes later LOL, i blame it on texting while typing, they should make a law banning that...XD

Oh and happy thousandth post btw

haha

christianmotox · 02-11-2011, 05:45 PM

I know hu? i didn't even noticed it was my thousand post. LOL

Thanks.
Ill just wait for My LED taillights from the forum.

Everyone knows you get a set when you hit 1000.

lbls1 · 02-11-2011, 06:57 PM

Cadillac wishes it could do 3.9 to sixty. The test I saw for it had it at 4.2 or 4.3 and mid 12's quarter mile.

With this powertrain and some good gearing, chevy should make 3.9 to sixty and a very high 11 quarter mile mark its goal.

Maurdib · 02-11-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lbls1

Cadillac wishes it could do 3.9 to sixty. The test I saw for it had it at 4.2 or 4.3 and mid 12's quarter mile.

With this powertrain and some good gearing, chevy should make 3.9 to sixty and a very high 11 quarter mile mark its goal.

Don't forget they have the Sedan and the Coupe

02-11-2011, 04:26 PM	#31
Autobots Roll out! Drives: 2010 ss/rs ls3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: cybertron,ok Posts: 368	Not sure what will be faster. But while the live chat was goin on with the ppl from gm the other day, Someone ask if the zl1 will keep up with the gt500? and one of the ppl from gm said Better yet do you think the gt500 will keep with the zl1? Just sounds to me like they are saying its more then a little faster, But still to early to tell, But do we knoe it will be one bad mofo for sure. __________________

02-11-2011, 05:00 PM	#33
SSmoked Drives: '12 Camaro ZL1 #1255 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: O' Canada Posts: 1,279	^^ i dont know about that. autos are stupid proof at the strip. get on the gas and watch as it grabs perfect shifts each time. stick cars is trying to perfect the rpm/clutch realse/ on the gas, than shifting at peak power everytime. This will be interesting. I cant wait to we actully see what the ZL1 does on the road course compared to the gt500. the caddy is one badass 4-door tho. __________________

02-11-2011, 05:07 PM	#34
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,201 View My Garage	I don't think ZL1 will be as heavy as CTS-V. I think ZL1 will get closer to 600 horse' than CTS-V is. I think a MT ZL1 will have a hard time staying in front of an AT CTS-V, but if GM gets an AT in the ZL1, it will be a clear acceleration winner. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

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lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,022	Cadillac wishes it could do 3.9 to sixty. The test I saw for it had it at 4.2 or 4.3 and mid 12's quarter mile. With this powertrain and some good gearing, chevy should make 3.9 to sixty and a very high 11 quarter mile mark its goal. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

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02-11-2011, 05:27 PM	#36
christianmotox Drives: ( . )( . ) Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,827	I think the ZL1 will win. The CTS-V coupe weights 4237lbs with an auto tranny The CTS-V Sedan weights 4222lbs with a manual. I honestly don't think the ZL1 will weight more than 4000 lbs. Plus both CTS-V's are running 285/35R19 rears and the ZL1 is running Sticky's 305/35-20 rears All that Plus, i think the ZL1 will put down more HP and torque than the CTS-V I personally am almost 100% sure the ZL1 will beat the CTS-V

02-11-2011, 05:45 PM	#40
christianmotox Drives: ( . )( . ) Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,827	I know hu? i didn't even noticed it was my thousand post. LOL Thanks. Ill just wait for My LED taillights from the forum. Everyone knows you get a set when you hit 1000.