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DUSTYHAZE · 10-04-2015, 01:52 AM

About 1k miles on the new car, 15 1ss l99. Airaid intake, muffler delete and 305 drag radials. 1/3 tank of gas. Good track prep/condition. 90° ish no wind. Didnt notice hardly any wheel spin and it felt strong and tight.
Tried lightly in the throttle then wot on launch and up against the converter as much as poss without spinning. Also tried letting it shift itself in S and manually shifting.

The dealership did put in low grade when I took delivery, after which I drove straight to autozone and added some good booster and have put a few premium tanks through since.

I was expecting mid/low 13's, and have seen a bit faster from bone stock cars. First run was quickest, after my ET slowed but gained in mph.
Car # 947

LBreezie · 10-04-2015, 02:52 AM

I'm faster in my RS. You need to take traction control and stability track off and when you line up push brake pedal all the way down and rev the engine to about 3000 Rpms and let go of the brake and full throttle out of the hole.

Joseph1LE · 10-04-2015, 07:55 AM

First of all what is the DA at your track? If you have a high DA you can't compare to magazine times where they run on perfect tracks in perfect conditions.

2nd of all did you pull the fuses to reset the octane tables after running a few tanks of good gas through it?

Pro Stock John · 10-04-2015, 09:51 AM

DA, elevation, no tcs, need to know.

I went 13.15 bone stock in 400 DA.

GreenAppleLS3 · 10-04-2015, 11:08 AM

@John. look at his MPH. it will tell all for the DA. 101mph in the 1/4 and 77-79mph at the 1/8. thats hurting my Xrunner with bolt ons did that in a decent DA. his had to be terrible.

Red2014SS · 10-04-2015, 12:32 PM

Using Firebird Int Dragway (which I think is Wild Horse Pass)...
The DA was, get this..

Density Altitude: 3784 feet
Relative Density: 89.39 %

Wow! That's pretty bad.
Corrected time on the first slip is
13.443 @ 106.334

Track is 1140ft above sea level .. my local track is 400ft for comparison.

The DA is killing you. Read up on the DA and you'll understand. Here is a link to DA calculator and correction algorithm.

http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...calculator.php

Your corrected time is actually respectable. Next time out, be sure to disable the traction control and stabiltrak. I've never been able to hold my revs at 3k..stock converter wont allow it... it would always push through the brakes. Try preloading the convertor by holding the brakes and revving the engine to about 800-1000rpm. When the third light goes yellow, let off the brake and floor it (two foot it). Your 60ft time should be a lot closer to 2.0 (no matter what the DA is)... Let it shift itself. No paddles. If you were running with the nannies on, that'll cost you about 1/2 second.

Wait until the weather is cooler and lower humidity (or find a track thats closer to sea level) and you'll see greatly improved times. Until then, practice your starts and lower that 60ft time.

DUSTYHAZE · 10-04-2015, 01:10 PM

Wow, great Information. Thank you. That makes sense. I have since learned that Ive only been disabling Traction control this whole time and not Stabilitrak as well. So all times are with stabilitrak on. I never knew to hold the TC button for 7 secs or so lol

I did not do the fuse pull as I read somewhere that 2012 or after would do it on its own. Should I still do this?

Thanks guys, I'm going to read up on the DA. I knew there was a correction that may need to be made but had no idea it could account for so much time.

62nalide · 10-04-2015, 01:36 PM

My car 100% stock in high 3600 DA went 13.24 lol

Red2014SS · 10-04-2015, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DUSTYHAZE

Wow, great Information. Thank you. That makes sense. I have since learned that Ive only been disabling Traction control this whole time and not Stabilitrak as well. So all times are with stabilitrak on. I never knew to hold the TC button for 7 secs or so lol

I did not do the fuse pull as I read somewhere that 2012 or after would do it on its own. Should I still do this?

Thanks guys, I'm going to read up on the DA. I knew there was a correction that may need to be made but had no idea it could account for so much time.

Fuse pull won't hurt anything. Go ahead and do it. Stabiltrak will add a couple tenths to your time, so you would have been in the 13s if you had disabled it. Don't feel bad about your first time out... I was the same as you, made the same mistakes, ran the same times and posted the exact same thread. I'm still learning and trying to go faster.. You'll get faster each time you go. Remember, your time at the end depends on your 60ft time... so always try to do better at that.

Your car will also get quicker when it gets a few more miles on it. A lot of guys swear their L99 didn't really come alive until about 5k on the odometer. The best thing I ever did was get headers and a tune. A good tune is the best thing you can do for an L99. If you've got the $$ don't hesitate.

rontammy0 · 10-11-2015, 10:57 PM

Ive dropped a full second....off my 1/4 mile time...my 60 ft went from 2.6 down to 2.0..and i went from 103.5 mph to 110.75mph. This was all done after some real seat time. My goal was to get into the 12s which i was able to do. Im not to hardcore racer ....but i did want that as a set goal. So don't worry...it does get better.

10-04-2015, 01:52 AM	#1
DUSTYHAZE Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Peoria AZ Posts: 53	What am I doing wrong? About 1k miles on the new car, 15 1ss l99. Airaid intake, muffler delete and 305 drag radials. 1/3 tank of gas. Good track prep/condition. 90° ish no wind. Didnt notice hardly any wheel spin and it felt strong and tight. Tried lightly in the throttle then wot on launch and up against the converter as much as poss without spinning. Also tried letting it shift itself in S and manually shifting. The dealership did put in low grade when I took delivery, after which I drove straight to autozone and added some good booster and have put a few premium tanks through since. I was expecting mid/low 13's, and have seen a bit faster from bone stock cars. First run was quickest, after my ET slowed but gained in mph. Car # 947

10-04-2015, 07:55 AM	#3
Joseph1LE Drives: 2015 Camaro SS 1LE, 2001 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Miami Posts: 836	First of all what is the DA at your track? If you have a high DA you can't compare to magazine times where they run on perfect tracks in perfect conditions. 2nd of all did you pull the fuses to reset the octane tables after running a few tanks of good gas through it? __________________ 2017 GMC Canyon All Terrain- daily driver/dirt bike hauler 2015 Camaro SS 1LE- sold 2001 Camaro SS SOM M6- sold 1999 Firebird Formula A4- sold

10-04-2015, 09:51 AM	#4
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	DA, elevation, no tcs, need to know. I went 13.15 bone stock in 400 DA. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

10-04-2015, 11:08 AM	#5
GreenAppleLS3 Drives: Synergy Green SS Camaro 6 speed Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: San diego Posts: 194 View My Garage	@John. look at his MPH. it will tell all for the DA. 101mph in the 1/4 and 77-79mph at the 1/8. thats hurting my Xrunner with bolt ons did that in a decent DA. his had to be terrible. __________________ Synergy Green Camaro SS LS3 TH400, Stock Ported heads, Night Fury cam 4600 Circle D stall. 3.91 gears and rotofab intake, obx headers,

10-04-2015, 12:32 PM	#6
Red2014SS Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Camaro Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,421	Using Firebird Int Dragway (which I think is Wild Horse Pass)... The DA was, get this.. Density Altitude: 3784 feet Relative Density: 89.39 % Wow! That's pretty bad. Corrected time on the first slip is 13.443 @ 106.334 Track is 1140ft above sea level .. my local track is 400ft for comparison. The DA is killing you. Read up on the DA and you'll understand. Here is a link to DA calculator and correction algorithm. http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...calculator.php Your corrected time is actually respectable. Next time out, be sure to disable the traction control and stabiltrak. I've never been able to hold my revs at 3k..stock converter wont allow it... it would always push through the brakes. Try preloading the convertor by holding the brakes and revving the engine to about 800-1000rpm. When the third light goes yellow, let off the brake and floor it (two foot it). Your 60ft time should be a lot closer to 2.0 (no matter what the DA is)... Let it shift itself. No paddles. If you were running with the nannies on, that'll cost you about 1/2 second. Wait until the weather is cooler and lower humidity (or find a track thats closer to sea level) and you'll see greatly improved times. Until then, practice your starts and lower that 60ft time. __________________ 2014 2SS/RS, L99, SW LTH w/HF Cats, GMPP Ex. Z/28 CAI, FR41s in PVD Black Chrome, Recaros, Pfadt Sway 377hp, 383tq 12.739@110.44 MPH Last edited by Red2014SS; 10-04-2015 at 12:54 PM.

10-04-2015, 02:52 AM	#2
LBreezie Drives: 2012 Camaro 45th anniversary Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: PA Posts: 1,027 View My Garage	I'm faster in my RS. You need to take traction control and stability track off and when you line up push brake pedal all the way down and rev the engine to about 3000 Rpms and let go of the brake and full throttle out of the hole.

10-04-2015, 01:10 PM	#7
DUSTYHAZE Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Peoria AZ Posts: 53	Wow, great Information. Thank you. That makes sense. I have since learned that Ive only been disabling Traction control this whole time and not Stabilitrak as well. So all times are with stabilitrak on. I never knew to hold the TC button for 7 secs or so lol I did not do the fuse pull as I read somewhere that 2012 or after would do it on its own. Should I still do this? Thanks guys, I'm going to read up on the DA. I knew there was a correction that may need to be made but had no idea it could account for so much time.

10-04-2015, 01:36 PM	#8
62nalide Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 4,102	My car 100% stock in high 3600 DA went 13.24 lol __________________ https://frankensteined.net/ Martin@Frankensteined.net

10-11-2015, 10:57 PM	#10
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	Ive dropped a full second....off my 1/4 mile time...my 60 ft went from 2.6 down to 2.0..and i went from 103.5 mph to 110.75mph. This was all done after some real seat time. My goal was to get into the 12s which i was able to do. Im not to hardcore racer ....but i did want that as a set goal. So don't worry...it does get better.