2017 Camaro 2SS vs 2017 Premium Mustang GT - Page 2

jdasnt3 · 06-14-2017, 02:49 PM

Great dilemma to be in, OP. Both are fantastic cars. I had a choice when I was 18 too: drive my Dad's 1980 Renault or walk. Pretty similar to you... LOL. I couldn't afford a nice car until 1998. I'm just grateful that I am able to afford the 2SS and gas/insurance/repairs now and a 15 and 12 SS LS3 prior. We also had a G8 GT and a GTO. So I cannot help you with the Mustang vs. Camaro, but I am a bit jealous that you can afford it at your age.

L99BEN · 06-14-2017, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Malomari

Hello,
I have always dreamt of owning a camaro especially when the 6th gen was released. I am going to buy a car in a couple of months but ever since i drove my friend's Mustang I have been torn between the two. I realize the camaro is superior performance wise, but you can not deny the Mustang in terms of practicality. It has a bigger trunk, better visibility, and a more roomy interior. I never drove the camaro but I sat in one. Is your camaro a daily driver? What issues do you face daily if any?
P.S: I am about 5'9" 18 year old.

Thanks.

Go drive the Camaro. I traded my stang gt and never looked back. The camaro sounds way better, clearly faster in a straight line from any speed, much better in the turns.
If you must, at least wait for the 2018 mustang gt, the 11-17's are inferior from a performance standpoint. Daily driver and visibility hasn't been an issue for me personally.

If planning on supercharging, the GT may be the better platform.

reeper · 06-15-2017, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Malomari

Hello,
but you can not deny the Mustang in terms of practicality. It has a bigger trunk, better visibility, and a more roomy interior.
Thanks.

If practicality is that big of a concern look at Malibu or Cruz and don't consider and Camaro or Corvette.

PhantomV8 · 06-16-2017, 08:01 AM

In my personal opinion, if you are not getting the V8, get the Mustang. If you are looking at the V8 models, get the Camaro.

camaromike77 · 06-23-2017, 02:55 PM

I've owned two Mustang GT's in the past. I now own a 2SS Camaro. To me it was a no brainer.......

G2K · 06-23-2017, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chadicus

I owned a 2015 Premium GT PP and I currently own a 2017 2SS. For me the performance difference was too much to overcome with the Mustang. Even with a tune and basic mods the Mustang was an inferior performer. I do like the interior of the Mustang better. It is easier to daily drive but since neither car is or ever will be a daily driver the Camaro was too good for me to pass up.

Are you talking stock SS vs modded GT? A friend has a GT PP wants to race my 1LE which is stock and im kinda evading him since i really dont want to put up with his trash talk everytime i see him if he beats me

G2K · 06-23-2017, 10:24 PM

And to the subject i was in the loop too. MY best friend has a 17 GT PP so very familiar with it and the camaro is on another level. Visibility is something that you can definitely get used to. Eventually it will come around, only had mine for two weeks and still have a bit of trouble parking, because you literally cant see the curbs on the (passenger side is worse) unless you move the mirror. You either park to far or curb your wheels.... but again... practice and time makes perfect. Oh and like people say if you plan con heavy mods the mustang is king they did great things to that motor and the way it responds to mods... mainly because its a forged motor.... hate it that chevy didnt do this.... but for basic bolt ons and i would say "status" the camaro wins it. People enjoy seeing more my stock camaro 1LE than his modded GT

Quix · 06-24-2017, 02:17 PM

I test drove both cars before buying a Camaro, the biggest practicality differences for me were the interior (Mustang is roomier and Camaro is more sporty, you sit right down inside the car). The Camaro's trunk is a reasonable size and the Mustangs is a bit bigger. Both have back seats that fold down so cargo space is fine. The back seat in both is useless, unless you have small children. I'm 6'4" and I'll fit in either provided the seat is adjusted correctly.

As for dailying the Camaro, I drive my car every day, and I haven't had any issues doing anything I want to do other than accommodating more than 2 people comfortably. I'm willing to deal with that. There are a few small things that can be annoying, the doors are huge and the car are really wide which will be an annoyance in parking lots. I have a V6 Auto and the fuel economy is really amazing, only about 20% worse in the same conditions than the Mazda 3 I used to drive. The V8 is probably a bit thirstier, but GM has done everything in their power to improve fuel economy. Cargo capacity is really good for a sports car, similar to a compact sedan. Visibility isn't bad forward and you can get used to reversing the car (with the camera) within a week.

Obsol3te · 06-24-2017, 03:40 PM

Just reiterating what everyone has said basically.
Stock for stock and even N/A vs N/A the camaro wins all around. I can't speak for visibility in the camaro or even the interior, I just heard it improved. Although the camaro is usually stickered a good amount higher than the mustang, if you can afford it go camaro.

But, if you plan on doing anything regarding forced induction, the mustang is a no brainer.
For the same price you'll have a car that makes a friendly 100-200whp more than a similarly modded camaro on street friendly pump gas.
And if you do go mustang, the MT82 manual transmission is trash, go auto. Enjoy slapping a whipple/kenne bell on and running 9's with your auto all day with minimal work

Chadicus · 06-25-2017, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Obsol3te

Just reiterating what everyone has said basically.
Stock for stock and even N/A vs N/A the camaro wins all around. I can't speak for visibility in the camaro or even the interior, I just heard it improved. Although the camaro is usually stickered a good amount higher than the mustang, if you can afford it go camaro.

But, if you plan on doing anything regarding forced induction, the mustang is a no brainer.
For the same price you'll have a car that makes a friendly 100-200whp more than a similarly modded camaro on street friendly pump gas.
And if you do go mustang, the MT82 manual transmission is trash, go auto. Enjoy slapping a whipple/kenne bell on and running 9's with your auto all day with minimal work

Getting an S550 GT to run 9s is not minimal work lol. Besides just adding F/I that car needs a ton of suspension and drivetrain mods plus some weight reduction.

BlaqWhole · 06-25-2017, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by G2K

Are you talking stock SS vs modded GT? A friend has a GT PP wants to race my 1LE which is stock and im kinda evading him since i really dont want to put up with his trash talk everytime i see him if he beats me

He would need a really good tune, cai, GT350 IM/TB and/or headers, and a torque converter (if automatic) to hang with a stock SS. And a good tire. And possibly some upgraded axles. If he just has a cai and a tune and nothing else then you should obliterate him. Best thing to do is go out and practice your launches on a deserted road and get used to racing. Then when you're ready go to a track and settle it there.

BlaqWhole · 06-25-2017, 01:13 PM

OP, I had a 15 Mustang GT. It was nice and all...I liked it. It was a Premium non-PP 401a option package. But the lack of performance out the box is just too depressing. Especially for a modern 435 hp car. Bone stock it did not even feel fast. The PP did because of the 3.73s. But with the 3.31s even in Sport or Track mode it was very underwhelming. And they handle like crap. It wasn't until I put the GT350 IM/TB and a tuned cai on it that it actually started to feel fast. The only thing I'll give the GT over the SS is that you can get a base model GT for very cheap. So if money is an issue and you plan to add LTs and IM and all other stuff to it, then get the GT and just deal with the slowness until you get your mods. But if you can afford the SS and you want crazy performance out the box then do yourself a favor and get the SS.

keon718nyc · 06-25-2017, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

OP, I had a 15 Mustang GT. It was nice and all...I liked it. It was a Premium non-PP 401a option package. But the lack of performance out the box is just too depressing. Especially for a modern 435 hp car. Bone stock it did not even feel fast. The PP did because of the 3.73s. But with the 3.31s even in Sport or Track mode it was very underwhelming. And they handle like crap. It wasn't until I put the GT350 IM/TB and a tuned cai on it that it actually started to feel fast. The only thing I'll give the GT over the SS is that you can get a base model GT for very cheap. So if money is an issue and you plan to add LTs and IM and all other stuff to it, then get the GT and just deal with the slowness until you get your mods. But if you can afford the SS and you want crazy performance out the box then do yourself a favor and get the SS.

+1 Great post and does make sense for sure!

BlaqWhole · 06-25-2017, 02:24 PM

Seriously. Ford should be slapped for the Mustangs they been putting out recently. The came out hard in 11 with the Coyote. And then in 13 they came out even harder with the Shelby. And after that they took a nap. The GT is a dog. The GT350 can barely hang with the 1SS 1LE if it can even hang at all. The GT350R can't beat anything it was built to beat. The V6 and EB are jokes. It's like they aren't even trying. And even still, it is almost July and nobody knows what output the 18 GT will have. The GT500 is MIA and nobody knows if it will even make it out for the S550 body style. It's like the Mustang went Jenner on everyone. I wouldn't even bother with one of them until they get some testosterone back in their system. They're the joke of the performance world right now, lol!!

06-14-2017, 02:49 PM	#15
jdasnt3 Drives: 18 Silverado 1500 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 1,721	Great dilemma to be in, OP. Both are fantastic cars. I had a choice when I was 18 too: drive my Dad's 1980 Renault or walk. Pretty similar to you... LOL. I couldn't afford a nice car until 1998. I'm just grateful that I am able to afford the 2SS and gas/insurance/repairs now and a 15 and 12 SS LS3 prior. We also had a G8 GT and a GTO. So I cannot help you with the Mustang vs. Camaro, but I am a bit jealous that you can afford it at your age. __________________ 16 Red Hot 2SS A8: NPP, CAI Cold air, Ported TB, Fasterproms Ported intake, E85 flex, Formatto tuned. 11.80@118 with 1.92 60' (600-700 DA) on stock run flats.

06-23-2017, 02:55 PM	#19
camaromike77 Drives: S O L D Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Ontario Posts: 2,106	I've owned two Mustang GT's in the past. I now own a 2SS Camaro. To me it was a no brainer....... __________________ Club F1FTY 2017 2SS 50th Anniversary Convertible Borla S-Type exhaust NPP\| GM CAI \| Color matched GM side skirts \| Color matched 3rd brake light \| Big Worm Graphics smoked out tail lights & rear reflectors \| Oracle ghosted side markers \| LED License plate bulbs \| Door striker covers \| Jam handle \| Engine emblems from RiverCity Creations \| 50th Center Console \| Black bow ties \| Hawk Performance ceramic brake pads \| ZL1 Start button \| CQuartz ceramic paint finish \| Novistretch bra \| S O L D

06-24-2017, 03:40 PM	#23
Obsol3te Drives: 2015 Mustang GT PP M6 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Hope Mills, NC Posts: 40	Just reiterating what everyone has said basically. Stock for stock and even N/A vs N/A the camaro wins all around. I can't speak for visibility in the camaro or even the interior, I just heard it improved. Although the camaro is usually stickered a good amount higher than the mustang, if you can afford it go camaro. But, if you plan on doing anything regarding forced induction, the mustang is a no brainer. For the same price you'll have a car that makes a friendly 100-200whp more than a similarly modded camaro on street friendly pump gas. And if you do go mustang, the MT82 manual transmission is trash, go auto. Enjoy slapping a whipple/kenne bell on and running 9's with your auto all day with minimal work __________________ '15 GT PP M6 763RWHP @ 8100RPM 3740lbs 3.2LC KB, ID1000, Boundary OPG, TSS CS, KB BAP, SCT X4, Palm Beach Tuned, Kooks 1 7/8 Catted LT's, Magnaflow Comp. Cat-back, Mantic Twin Disc, MGW Short Throw, Maximum Motorsprots CC Plates, BMR Cradle Lockout, Eibach Pro-Kit, Proj. 6GR 19x10 ET35 19x11 ET50 Lumar 35% Tint, UPR Floating Pony, MMD Decklid, BlackVue650GW Dash Cam

06-16-2017, 08:01 AM	#18
PhantomV8 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Eastern US Posts: 117	In my personal opinion, if you are not getting the V8, get the Mustang. If you are looking at the V8 models, get the Camaro.

06-23-2017, 10:24 PM	#21
G2K @Blackmamba_1LE Drives: 2017 1LE Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 740	And to the subject i was in the loop too. MY best friend has a 17 GT PP so very familiar with it and the camaro is on another level. Visibility is something that you can definitely get used to. Eventually it will come around, only had mine for two weeks and still have a bit of trouble parking, because you literally cant see the curbs on the (passenger side is worse) unless you move the mirror. You either park to far or curb your wheels.... but again... practice and time makes perfect. Oh and like people say if you plan con heavy mods the mustang is king they did great things to that motor and the way it responds to mods... mainly because its a forged motor.... hate it that chevy didnt do this.... but for basic bolt ons and i would say "status" the camaro wins it. People enjoy seeing more my stock camaro 1LE than his modded GT

06-24-2017, 02:17 PM	#22
Quix Drives: 2016 2LT V6 Garnet Red Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 106	I test drove both cars before buying a Camaro, the biggest practicality differences for me were the interior (Mustang is roomier and Camaro is more sporty, you sit right down inside the car). The Camaro's trunk is a reasonable size and the Mustangs is a bit bigger. Both have back seats that fold down so cargo space is fine. The back seat in both is useless, unless you have small children. I'm 6'4" and I'll fit in either provided the seat is adjusted correctly. As for dailying the Camaro, I drive my car every day, and I haven't had any issues doing anything I want to do other than accommodating more than 2 people comfortably. I'm willing to deal with that. There are a few small things that can be annoying, the doors are huge and the car are really wide which will be an annoyance in parking lots. I have a V6 Auto and the fuel economy is really amazing, only about 20% worse in the same conditions than the Mazda 3 I used to drive. The V8 is probably a bit thirstier, but GM has done everything in their power to improve fuel economy. Cargo capacity is really good for a sports car, similar to a compact sedan. Visibility isn't bad forward and you can get used to reversing the car (with the camera) within a week.

06-25-2017, 01:13 PM	#26
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	OP, I had a 15 Mustang GT. It was nice and all...I liked it. It was a Premium non-PP 401a option package. But the lack of performance out the box is just too depressing. Especially for a modern 435 hp car. Bone stock it did not even feel fast. The PP did because of the 3.73s. But with the 3.31s even in Sport or Track mode it was very underwhelming. And they handle like crap. It wasn't until I put the GT350 IM/TB and a tuned cai on it that it actually started to feel fast. The only thing I'll give the GT over the SS is that you can get a base model GT for very cheap. So if money is an issue and you plan to add LTs and IM and all other stuff to it, then get the GT and just deal with the slowness until you get your mods. But if you can afford the SS and you want crazy performance out the box then do yourself a favor and get the SS.

06-25-2017, 02:24 PM	#28
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	Seriously. Ford should be slapped for the Mustangs they been putting out recently. The came out hard in 11 with the Coyote. And then in 13 they came out even harder with the Shelby. And after that they took a nap. The GT is a dog. The GT350 can barely hang with the 1SS 1LE if it can even hang at all. The GT350R can't beat anything it was built to beat. The V6 and EB are jokes. It's like they aren't even trying. And even still, it is almost July and nobody knows what output the 18 GT will have. The GT500 is MIA and nobody knows if it will even make it out for the S550 body style. It's like the Mustang went Jenner on everyone. I wouldn't even bother with one of them until they get some testosterone back in their system. They're the joke of the performance world right now, lol!!

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