05-09-2016, 11:29 PM | #1 |
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6th Gen Sport Car Comparable
Hi All,
My first post here. Can you share your thoughts on with which modern sports car the 6th Gen v6 6M is most similar? I've read many positive articles, but can't help but think the comments are made from a "...for a Camaro" perspective. I'd like to pick up a modern driver's car and have long considered a NC/ND Miata. Do you think the 6th Gen v6 makes a good driver's car? I'm interested in a 1LE v6 and was impressed with video interviews where the Camaro marketing staff claim the 6th gen v6 1LE is nearing 5th gen SS models lap times at Willow Springs. How impressive is this for the v6 engine? What type of lateral g's will the v6 1LE pull? How close are these lap times. I know 0-60 and 1/4 times don't tell a whole story, but I find it interesting to compare the v6 times to prior generation muscle cars and sports cars. It seems we're in a special time for sports cars. Thanks for your time and sharing your thoughts. John M. |
05-10-2016, 06:10 AM | #2 |
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I had a 2012 2LT/RS Vert, and now have a 2016 2LT/RS vert. With each car, I absolutely LOVED the road trips! The Gen 6's are even more comfortable than the Gen 5's. Seats are very supportive (although I would have liked a lumbar adjust option) and the car just feels good on long road trips.
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05-10-2016, 06:27 AM | #3 |
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The new Gen 6 Camaro is comparable to this with half the price!
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05-10-2016, 06:49 AM | #4 | |
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OP, I don't think anyone knows that much about the drivability of a v6 1LE. You may want to wait to see one at the dealer. Anything else would be speculation at this point. |
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05-10-2016, 06:58 AM | #5 |
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2SS > M4....
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05-10-2016, 07:28 AM | #6 | |
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Although more closely aligned with the ATS, the V6 Camaro most closely matches the BMW 4 Series or Mercedes C-Class Coupe though it's not really up to their standards of fit, finish and refinement (sorry). Then again it's far less expensive and a great value IMHO. |
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05-10-2016, 07:47 AM | #7 |
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I said comparable not better!
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05-10-2016, 07:52 AM | #8 | |
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Lets wait and hopefully Motor Trend do a comparison with a 911! and with half the price is "comparable" to the Porsche |
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05-10-2016, 08:08 AM | #9 |
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You said you was interested in a V6 1LE??? Those, in my opinion, are going to be absolutely fantastic driver's cars. Light weight (relatively) with track oriented suspension...if its handling that you are after, and not crazy amounts of power, it is the one for you.
GM has already said it laps basically the same times on their test track as the last gen SS. So one can assume that it loses time on the straights to the 5th gen SS, but makes up the time in handling and braking. That said, even if you didn't get the 1LE version, even the standard V6 appears to be a great drivers car. This might sound strange, but I don't get many chances to go WOT on my SS...its just so stinking fast lol. I kind of miss wringing out my old 5th gen V6.
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05-10-2016, 08:18 AM | #10 | |
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Any of today's ~300 HP sports cars, sporty cars, and sport sedans would be in the thick of the street performance scene if you could somehow teleport them back to, say, 1968. Trust me on this, the original muscle cars and the more powerful ponycars were loud, rude and kind of crude, and not all that fast by today's standards. Norm
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Turbo 4 (275HP) = '96-'97 4th Gen LT1 V8 (275HP) 6th Gen V6 (335HP) = '98-'02 4th Gen LS1 V8 (305-325HP) As far as what I would compare the car to performance wise. The V6 1LE is essentially an SS with a V6 engine. So anything that an SS can hang with in the corners so can the V6 1LE. The alpha chassis was built so the Cadillac could outperform the BMW, Benz, and Audi in the sports sedan class. The ATS has proven it. Now that chassis is inherited by the camaros so the chassis is no longer the weak point of the car like it was in the past. Performance wise not luxury wise I would match this car against BMW 4 series coupe, Merc C-Class coupe, and the Lexus RC. The Hyundai Genesis coupe and Nissan 370Z might out class the car a hair since they are lighter and more powerfull, but in terms of the Mustang and Challenger, the Camaro is a much better performer.
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05-10-2016, 11:38 AM | #13 | |
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Remember, there's a whole lot more than track times that factor into what makes one car "better" than another and "better" is a very subjective term. What you should focus on is what you or the average buyer would cross shop. That is a better indication of what the user's needs are and how well a particular car fill those needs. |
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05-10-2016, 11:51 AM | #14 |
Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-Spec
Rear drive, well equipped, 348HP, similar torque, nicely balanced, drivers car. About $30K. I had a 2012 2.0 Turbo R-Spec, very fun car to drive for $23K.
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