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Z/28 wheels and tires. Sell the 1LE - probably take a little hit but if a brand new 1LE should be able to do this swap for little cost. Call up Pedders Remove rear seats and anything not needed in the car (can probably get it lighter than the Z/28 depending how much you want to take out). I priced something similar but going with a procharger and i am confident i could build a very nice Camaro 1LE for under 60k and i wouldnt need the LS7 swap Granted this is not a shop doing the work either and depending on what track you visit the most boost might not be the best option either |
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11-05-2013, 01:46 PM | #16 |
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Here's what i have done to get my 1ss up to Z28 levels
HKE built LSX 427 at 14 psi, 758whp...overkill i know but its fun custom Earls extra wide 16 row oil cooler...factory is garbage I have made 3 trips down to see Justice Pete himself and have the full Justice road course package with Pedders ZL1 sways and dual adj supercar coilovers. Upgraded to 12kg coils on all 4 corners with a corner balance. We got all 4 corners within 5 pounds of each other! Surprisingly with a full tank and the iron block and the meth and blower the car weighed in at 4112 lbs. So with a little effort i could easily get it to 3800lbs. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300581 Pedders adjustable camber plates....4 minutes and im at -2.8 camber Pedders Camaro Forgeline DE3Ps 19x10.5 wrapped in 305/30R19 Michelin Pilot Supersports and R compounds for the track if i feel the need(no dry sump so probably not) CTSV-6 piston caliper and larger rotor running Cobalt Friction XR1/XR3 pads GForce engineering 9" rear end with Strange Strac 3.50 diff 35 spline. 3.5" alum one piece Dynotec driveshaft Going twin turbo in Jan, PTE6766 turbos and 20psi for about 1100rwhp. Yea, i know, but this car is more of a "jack of all trades" than can run a good road course time and still run 9s in the quarter. Plan on a boost controller and low boost setting for the road course....or just learn to control the right foot.
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HKE LSX427(Mast blk lbl 305 6bolt LS7heads, PatG231/246 blower cam, RWHP/TQ: 1281/1133 SNL Performance Custom Twin PT6766 BB turbos 4 to 25psi selectable on the Boost Leash controller, Squash dual 400LPH/ID2000s, ALKY 4 gal meth, Autometer AFR/Bst/oilpres/oiltemp/fuelpress gauges, Pedders Justice road crs pkg: All HD bushes, supercar 12kg coil overs, supercar ZL1 sways, camber plates all setup by JusticePete! :Gforce 9" 35spline S-Trac, 1500hp Outlaw axles, 3.5"alum DS, Monster Triple disc; 4xForgeline 19x10.5 4xBridgestone 305/30R19 RE-11, CTS-v calipers/rotors/Cobalt friction XR1/3 pads
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11-05-2013, 04:52 PM | #17 |
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Small engine mods, i would go katech kit, z/28 engine and diff cooler, 6 piston from zl1 brake kit, actually red cts v, and get nitto or other r compound tires. pfadt coils, bucket seats 1pc, rear seat delete with 21lbs deka battery and i am certain you will have a quick car.
Seats will be $1500 with hardware, 50lbs lighter. Rear delete 50lbs lost too. Battery is $100 worst case, 20-30lbs lighter. Coils $3000, and 10-15lbs lighter. Not sure if cooling features would work on 1le but that will be expensive $2000 lets say, ~30lbs added weight. Brakes $2000, a lil heavier. Tires amd wheels will be lighter if u buy the z ones but u can get good money for 1le ones too. 100lbs lighter and around $7k. Plenty to drop on motor or the prefered choice, pads and tires.
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11-05-2013, 07:37 PM | #18 | |
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11-05-2013, 08:38 PM | #19 |
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Lovin' the ideas! For reference see below.
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11-06-2013, 08:08 AM | #20 |
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Very simply: Tons of seat time and a couple of mods:
IMO 1LE has 2 glaring weak spots. Front brake repeatability and power delivery in a corner. It also has 2 areas of concern: power deficiencies and its weight. Once those have been solved you can look further at wheels, tires, suspension.....
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11-06-2013, 11:35 AM | #21 | |
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11-06-2013, 03:34 PM | #22 |
USAF retired! Thank God!
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LOL! pretty much though.
I still have my LS3 broken down in the garage. Plan is to sleeve it and run about 440 or so cubes. Go with 12-13 to 1 CR with a good road course cam. probably gonna set it up dry sump also. I think the LSX will be fun for quite a while though.
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11-06-2013, 03:54 PM | #23 |
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What is wrong with the 1le diff?
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11-06-2013, 04:12 PM | #24 |
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It's just the standard locker from an SS. The Z/28 uses the same rear with a different cover that has a built in fluid cooler, it also has a Torsen carrier/differential that has a worm gear mechanism. It's very similar to a Trutrac from Detroit Locker. They are both better for road track duties.
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Yes, good idea! I fixed it for me.
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11-06-2013, 05:14 PM | #26 |
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11-06-2013, 06:37 PM | #28 | |
USAF retired! Thank God!
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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300581 The common SS and the 1LE can be upgraded close to the Z28 imho for quite a bit of coin. Why is this thread a good read? Because based on the numbers GM plans to crank out.........it will be a very, very difficult car to obtain. Not as bad as the COPO but......still difficult. I personally dont care about the value of a 2014 original Z28 40 years from now with 5 miles on it. I built my car to drive the hell out of. Its still a work in progress and have yet to get it out to the road course but the time is fast approaching. Its a ton of fun on the back roads of north Texas. And the drives down to Kerrville/Fredericksberg (Pedders HQ) was also quite a rush.
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