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Old 12-01-2017, 12:09 AM   #1
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Cleetus did it, Can I?

So i've been torn on which FI setup to use. I am a big fan of how Cleetus Macfarland has his C7 vette set up. F1A Procharger, Meth kit, headers,cam. He runs this setup on SBE and stock fueling,other than meth kit, and pushes 841 rwhp? I thought stock fueling was only good to 750 on our LT1's? And SBE? Daily Driver? Can I run same setup? Am I missing something?

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Old 12-01-2017, 03:14 AM   #2
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He must be running a shit ton of meth to be cam and stock fuel at those numbers. Most i've heard on cam and stock fuel is 660 on a happy dyno. Add meth maybe 700? 750? Definitely not 841whp. Not sure what is missing in that equation. 100 shot? lol
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:16 AM   #3
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He must be running a shit ton of meth to be cam and stock fuel at those numbers. Most i've heard on cam and stock fuel is 660 on a happy dyno. Add meth maybe 700? 750? Definitely not 841whp. Not sure what is missing in that equation. 100 shot? lol
I have made 936 rwhp with a STOCK CAM, on a LT with pump gas and meth.
And the cars been together for a year now. .....F1A, 18psi, pump 91 and two of the biggest meth nozzles flowing all they can flow.


Yes, Cleetus sprays a LOT of meth. But that car literally gets beaten on nearly daily. He drives that car a LOTTTTT, and hard if you can't tell from his videos.

I always told him that he would LOVE that F1A with a stick shifted car, and he is beyond inlove with that thing.
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:21 PM   #4
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Not only is he spraying a lot of "meth". He is spraying 100% M1 Methanol. It is a long way from Windshield washer fluid.
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:31 PM   #5
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Not only is he spraying a lot of "meth". He is spraying 100% M1 Methanol. It is a long way from Windshield washer fluid.
What he said!
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Old 12-01-2017, 03:02 PM   #6
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Not only is he spraying a lot of "meth". He is spraying 100% M1 Methanol. It is a long way from Windshield washer fluid.
I mean so am I... But out of a single nozzle with my Alky dial at 6 lol. damn. Even a slight low voltage glitch up top and you'll have the leanest cylinders ever O.o on stock fuel/cam and just meth
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Old 12-01-2017, 03:11 PM   #7
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I mean so am I... But out of a single nozzle with my Alky dial at 6 lol. damn. Even a slight low voltage glitch up top and you'll have the leanest cylinders ever O.o on stock fuel/cam and just meth
I use 40%meth and that throws my lambda off around .8-1.0 That's enough for me to stay away from going to 100% meth. Not saying that meth does not work, or anything negative. I also like being able to use Windshield washer fluid and not worry about mixing it. I have 10 gallons of M1 I just haven't needed it. Maybe someone with the experience could chime in on the off set of AFR or lambda with 100% meth.
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Old 12-01-2017, 03:16 PM   #8
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I use 40%meth and that throws my lambda off around .8-1.0 That's enough for me to stay away from going to 100% meth. Not saying that meth does not work, or anything negative. I also like being able to use Windshield washer fluid and not worry about mixing it. I have 10 gallons of M1 I just haven't needed it. Maybe someone with the experience could chime in on the off set of AFR or lambda with 100% meth.
Hrmm I'm curious too... I would feel more comfortable running a mixture like boost juice (pump lasts much longer). I have a long overdue meeting with my tuner haha
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Old 12-01-2017, 03:22 PM   #9
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Hrmm I'm curious too... I would feel more comfortable running a mixture like boost juice (pump lasts much longer). I have a long overdue meeting with my tuner haha
Can you get your hands on -20 Xtreme blue WW fluid? and a bottle of Heet (yellow) bottle? What does boost juice cost?
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:23 PM   #10
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I have made 936 rwhp with a STOCK CAM, on a LT with pump gas and meth...two of the biggest meth nozzles flowing all they can flow.
What happens if that meth pump fails during high speed run?

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Even a slight low voltage glitch up top and you'll have the leanest cylinders ever O.o on stock fuel/cam and just meth
This is why using methanol to supplement a lack of fuel scares me.
Unless you have an AFR gauge with an audible alert.
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:51 PM   #11
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I wouldnt do it myself... I would say at least drop in pistons, cam and LT4 topside setup. You want the safety net and balance power/cooling wise.
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Old 12-01-2017, 05:44 PM   #12
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What happens if that meth pump fails during high speed run?



This is why using methanol to supplement a lack of fuel scares me.
Unless you have an AFR gauge with an audible alert.

To answer your first question; KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM


On your second point; Even an AFR gauge won't save you if you lean out at 6k.
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Old 12-01-2017, 05:46 PM   #13
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To clarify though... These are a bunch of "what ifs"

Clearly cleetus has been man handling his car all over the place with a crap load of meth to supplement... I think Hogwild from the forums was pushing some intense power on stock cam and dual nozzle meth...

If you're a gamblin' man, do it.

Cleetus has enough income from YouTube to buy himself a fresh vette and yank the LT1 out of it for his car lol. I wouldn't use a guy like that as a benchmark.
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Old 12-01-2017, 07:09 PM   #14
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I have made 936 rwhp with a STOCK CAM, on a LT with pump gas and meth.
And the cars been together for a year now. .....F1A, 18psi, pump 91 and two of the biggest meth nozzles flowing all they can flow.


Yes, Cleetus sprays a LOT of meth. But that car literally gets beaten on nearly daily. He drives that car a LOTTTTT, and hard if you can't tell from his videos.

I always told him that he would LOVE that F1A with a stick shifted car, and he is beyond inlove with that thing.
936rwhp on sbe? Is this an lt1 or an lt4?
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