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Old 05-17-2015, 11:22 PM   #15
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Well we have to take GM at their word on this one until their word becomes invalidated.

As of right now they're saying 200lbs lighter...and I believe them.
They are not lying. That would be stupid. However, at no point have they ever said the 6th Gen SS is 200lbs lighter than the 5th Gen SS. Nowhere. If it turns out that is, indeed, the case, then kudos to GM.
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Old 05-18-2015, 12:28 AM   #16
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They are not lying. That would be stupid. However, at no point have they ever said the 6th Gen SS is 200lbs lighter than the 5th Gen SS. Nowhere. If it turns out that is, indeed, the case, then kudos to GM.
Focusing on making the vehicle 200 pounds or more lighter was one of the pillars for the designers of the 2016 Camaro. It will at least be in the ballpark of 200 pounds lighter.
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Old 05-18-2015, 06:13 AM   #17
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Focusing on making the vehicle 200 pounds or more lighter was one of the pillars for the designers of the 2016 Camaro. It will at least be in the ballpark of 200 pounds lighter.
No doubt, at least one model of the Alpha Camaro models WILL be 200lbs lighter than one of the 5thGen Camaro models. They have already said that. But that doesn't mean EVERY model lost 200lbs between the 5thGen and the 6thGen. Why is that so hard to comprehend or accept?
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Old 05-18-2015, 06:37 AM   #18
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Assuming they deliver on the 200lbs weight reduction and equipped with the 8 speed auto.

0-60: 4.0

1/4 mile: 12.4-12.6
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:08 AM   #19
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Thr manual should trap about 3-4 mph and .3-.4 quicker more vs a ls3 .
The auto should have about same trap speed as manual but quicker by .2-.3 second.
So lets used a baseline of 12.9@110 mph magazine time for the 5th gen .
Manual would run a 12.6@114 and the auto 12.4@113 is my guess.
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Old 05-18-2015, 09:07 AM   #20
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Depends on the weight and final gear ratio. The autos could have a 2.73 rear and very soft shifting settings to preserve the transmission with more moving parts.
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Old 05-18-2015, 09:27 AM   #21
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Thr manual should trap about 3-4 mph and .3-.4 quicker more vs a ls3 .
The auto should have about same trap speed as manual but quicker by .2-.3 second.
So lets used a baseline of 12.9@110 mph magazine time for the 5th gen .
Manual would run a 12.6@114 and the auto 12.4@113 is my guess.
I'd say this is right on the money
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:39 PM   #22
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Exceptions, not the norm. Exactly what I stated.

Why do people constantly equate the ATS with this new Camaro? While they share the Alpha platform, the Camaro is not an ATS with just a different skin on it. What the Alpha weighs in ATS configuration versus what is might weigh in Camaro configuration is unlikely to be apples-to-apples.
Why? Because its pretty much spot on what the Camaro will be sans wheels/body panels. I would expect the Camaro V6 to weigh probably about 3550lbs...and the V8 to be around 3700lbs...

That gives us the roughly 200lbs drop per model, and it improves fuel economy.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:44 PM   #23
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Why? Because its pretty much spot on what the Camaro will be sans wheels/body panels. I would expect the Camaro V6 to weigh probably about 3550lbs...and the V8 to be around 3700lbs...

That gives us the roughly 200lbs drop per model, and it improves fuel economy.
Also makes it about the same weight as the 2015 mustang and more hp in the 6 and 8.
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Old 05-18-2015, 09:01 PM   #24
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With the 8 speed auto I expect 4.0 0-60 and 12.4s 1/4 mile, hope I'm right too.
No way! The ZL1 only does 0-60 in 3.9 seconds, that would be amazing if it did.
I would guess 0-60 in 4.3 seconds, and 12.6 for the 1/4 mile.
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Old 05-18-2015, 09:16 PM   #25
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Well we have to take GM at their word on this one until their word becomes invalidated.

As of right now they're saying 200lbs lighter...and I believe them.
Agree aren't the gen6 wheels 18"? That could be a good reduction right there.
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Closer to 12.1-12.2
This^^^
The C7 A8 has been 11.60s @ 118mph so add 300lbs to the vettes 3350lbs I'd say around 12.20 @ 115mph
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The C7 A8 has been 11.60s @ 118mph so add 300lbs to the vettes 3350lbs I'd say around 12.20 @ 115mph
Ummm...even with 200lbs weight drop and a 30hp increase, you arent going from 13.0 in the quarter to 12.2....its just not happening...

The Vette has a lower drag coefficient, better aero, it's lighter, and most importantly, it's got tires the size of Texas on the back for grip...
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