[Allez]

When I had my summer tires I drove when it was as cold as the upper 30's, but no lower than that.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...jsp?techid=273

[SS_Don]

Thanks to all for your input.

Ok, so I am leaning towards the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4. When, and if, the car ever gets built and delivered I will have the dealer install them on the new rims instead of removing the tires off of the rims it comes with and installing on the new rims. This way I'll have a set of wheels and tires to sell that will cover the cost of the new tires.

[enzia35]

Originally Posted by Azerlazer26

Just to chime in, I’ve actually driven my car where temps would hit below 30° and the PS4s handled it beautifully, now this doesn’t mean go reckless and floor the car. Just drive the car “normal” like any other car with a wee bit more caution and you will be good

Shoot, drove my Miata on Falken RT660s this morning in 30F weather. Went 45mph down the highway(530) but it seemed fine. I'll check it for damage when I get off of work.

[SS_Don]

Originally Posted by JSH

Tire Rack, a sponsor here, has rated it #1 high performance tire for a longtime.

Does Tire Rack provide discounts to members?

[6spdhyperblue]

Doubt it

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by SS_Don

Does Tire Rack provide discounts to members?

Not that I know.

[c.s.v.b]

Just ordered these today. Due for install Wednesday. Going on a 460+ mile road trip to Atlanta this weekend. Will update on the performance.

[enzia35]

Too bad they're the run flats.

[arpad_m]

Yup, these won't be as good as their non-ZP counterparts.

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by SS_Don

Thanks to all for your input.

Ok, so I am leaning towards the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4. When, and if, the car ever gets built and delivered I will have the dealer install them on the new rims instead of removing the tires off of the rims it comes with and installing on the new rims. This way I'll have a set of wheels and tires to sell that will cover the cost of the new tires.

Don't listen to the people that say the Pilot Sport 4S tires are good in cold weather. They are NOT good in temps. below 45, +/-. They are downright bad below 40 F. BAD as in dangerous - from personal experience with them.

Pilot sport A/S 4 is the correct answer. That said, I had the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ on my Mustang GT PP1, and they were really good, even had good enough grip for twisty road driving in warm weather, and I was able to do 0-60 runs of 3.7-3.9 sec in them in mild weather (70 ish deg F) with my A10 GT. If I go all seasons in my ZL1, I'll probably go to the A/S 4 Michelin tire.

[Azerlazer26]

Originally Posted by Idaho2018GTPremium

Don't listen to the people that say the Pilot Sport 4S tires are good in cold weather. They are NOT good in temps. below 45, +/-. They are downright bad below 40 F. BAD as in dangerous - from personal experience with them.

Pilot sport A/S 4 is the correct answer. That said, I had the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ on my Mustang GT PP1, and they were really good, even had good enough grip for twisty road driving in warm weather, and I was able to do 0-60 runs of 3.7-3.9 sec in them in mild weather (70 ish deg F) with my A10 GT. If I go all seasons in my ZL1, I'll probably go to the A/S 4 Michelin tire.

I agree they are terrible below but you have to admit that they perform MUCH better than the stock Goodyears that come with these cars. You truthfully couldn’t pay me enough to go back to the Eagle F1s.

Going off topic for a quick second, how many miles did the A/S3s last you? Going in 2 years/ about 20k+ On my PS4s and just about need to get a new set for my rears.

[Allez]

The OP lives on Long Island New York. A glance at the weather there this week shows 1 day where the temp reaches 40 or above, 2 nights where the low is 22. This is not even the heart of winter. Even though the Pilot Sport 4S might be better than the OEM tire, if he plans to drive this time of year traction will still not be good and he risks being a danger to himself and others. He can also damage the tires.

If he doesn't want to drive when it's cold and he has a warm garage to store his car, then by all means a summer tire is fine.

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

Originally Posted by Azerlazer26

I agree they are terrible below but you have to admit that they perform MUCH better than the stock Goodyears that come with these cars. You truthfully couldn’t pay me enough to go back to the Eagle F1s.

Going off topic for a quick second, how many miles did the A/S3s last you? Going in 2 years/ about 20k+ On my PS4s and just about need to get a new set for my rears.

I only had the A/S 3+ on the GT for one cold season which was only ~2,400 miles. I put my summer tires/wheels back on and then sold the car before I ever switched back to the A/S 3+ so I can't say how long they would have lasted.

My ZL1 with the OEM Goodyear SC3 seems to do a little better, but still not good, in 40 deg F temps. compared to the PS4S on my GT. For example, on my GT, in 40 deg F temp. with dry streets, the car would slide/understeer on a slow and tight U turn at low g forces with light throttle when the tires were cold. Utterly terrible grip when cold, and only a few thousand miles on them at the time. Evasive maneuvers would have been impossible when those tires were cold. They were noticeably better once they were driven on for 10-15 minutes at those cold temps.

That type of cold tire behavior hasn't happened in the ZL1 despite having driven it in temps. below 40 F in the same exact same spot many times. I for a fact have seen almost 0.5 gs (and wasn't at the limit) on cold 35 deg F tires in my ZL1, while doing a slalom type exercise to test the cold weather grip in an empty parking lot after the car sat out in the cold for a couple of hours. They weren't breaking lose and had more available grip so I'm not sure where the actual grip limit was. The equally cold PS4S was nowhere near that in my GT.

[TP2SS]

I'm surprised to read people here think the OEM GY F1's are noisy. I don't find mine noisy at all. At least not compared to my wife's car!

She has a '16 CTS4 that has the 18" wheel option which come with RFs. OEM tires were Pirelli PZero Nero's which we found to be good in year-round Michigan weather, and quiet enough that I never noticed anything. Car definitely rides harsher compared to the same car with the standard 17's (we have a friend with same car but 17's). When we replaced them at 41k miles for normal wear, Belle Tire guy talked us into the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ RFs, and wow these things are loud! Definitely a difference from the Pirellis, and the change occurred with the tire change, so it isn't something mechanical.