Hand polishing - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

otter · 09-25-2015, 05:22 PM

When using a polish that is designed to be used by hand such as Blackfire's gloss enhancing polish or Adam's Revive polish, do you need to strip the wax and clay bar or can you use it after a washing only?

JTruck · 09-25-2015, 07:00 PM

You are wasting your money and time polishing by hand, period.

Jackpot · 09-25-2015, 08:13 PM

I would strip any wax or sealants , and clay only if needed do baggy test if unsure.

Dizzy82 · 09-25-2015, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackpot

I would strip any wax or sealants , and clay only if needed do baggy test if unsure.

+1.

Joe M 2012 2SS · 09-26-2015, 09:51 AM

Yes, you should remove any sealants, or wax that is on the area your working on.

I have not used the 2 brands you mentioned. Car Pro Fixer has worked well for me using a foam wax applicator for areas a machine can't reach.

http://www.carpro-us.com/carpro-poli...-polish-250ml/

Adam's Polishes · 09-26-2015, 06:58 PM

Like mentioned do the baggie test to see if you need to clay, if so clay first.
Revive Polish is a hand polish & paint cleaner.

JMT · 09-27-2015, 06:00 AM

I use all Blackfire products and yes you should remove the old wax for best results. I disagree with anyone saying waxing by hand is a waste of time. The results speak for themselves but far more important when using a buffer it seemed like work to me, when polishing by hand it became a zen thing, took my time and enjoyed the process and the day. Take breaks, relax and get a bond with your car!

richard200593 · 09-28-2015, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JMT

I use all Blackfire products and yes you should remove the old wax for best results. I disagree with anyone saying waxing by hand is a waste of time. The results speak for themselves but far more important when using a buffer it seemed like work to me, when polishing by hand it became a zen thing, took my time and enjoyed the process and the day. Take breaks, relax and get a bond with your car!

I think we are talking about two different things here. WAXING by hand is completely okay, paint correcting/finish polishing by hand is basically pointless.

Jackpot · 09-28-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by richard200593

I think we are talking about two different things here. WAXING by hand is completely okay, paint correcting/finish polishing by hand is basically pointless.

What is pointless, if its the extra time maybe but hand polishing for light correction and finish polishing will make a difference.at a minimum it will help clean the paint as a prep for new wax.

ClawSS · 09-28-2015, 10:39 AM

I may be talking way out of school here, but to remove those pesky spiderweb thin swirls that appear on dark paint when viewed from an angle in the sun....usually from incorrect washing techniques...don't you need a bit of heat usually generated from the buffer that cannot be reproduced by hand? I am speaking about the "fix" not the blend or cover-up with crystal energy. Thus not talking waxing but polishing.

SilverSS1LE · 09-28-2015, 12:23 PM

i use nothing but adams on all of my vehicles and i can tell you the product speaks for itself. if hand waxing/polishing shows no enhancment of your paint then you are using a bad product. on very bad looking paint then machine polishing is a must, but for up keep and paint maintence hand polishing works wonders. just like JMT said its a zen thing, enjoy the day and enjoy what youve spent a lot of money on taking care of it and it will show

Jackpot · 09-28-2015, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ClawSS

I may be talking way out of school here, but to remove those pesky spiderweb thin swirls that appear on dark paint when viewed from an angle in the sun....usually from incorrect washing techniques...don't you need a bit of heat usually generated from the buffer that cannot be reproduced by hand? I am speaking about the "fix" not the blend or cover-up with crystal energy. Thus not talking waxing but polishing.

there are abrasives in the polish that cut the paint that's how you have different cuts of compound and polish some are more aggressive.

ClawSS · 09-28-2015, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackpot

there are abrasives in the polish that cut the paint that's how you have different cuts of compound and polish some are more aggressive.

So to remove by hand do you need something that may be more abrasive or do you just need to apply more elbow grease?

Jackpot · 09-28-2015, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ClawSS

So to remove by hand do you need something that may be more abrasive or do you just need to apply more elbow grease?

depends on what your trying to accomplish, but i would let the pad and polish do the brunt of the work.

09-25-2015, 05:22 PM	#1
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09-25-2015, 07:00 PM	#2
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09-26-2015, 09:51 AM	#5
Joe M 2012 2SS Drives: 2012 2SS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Shelby NC Posts: 2,549 View My Garage	Yes, you should remove any sealants, or wax that is on the area your working on. I have not used the 2 brands you mentioned. Car Pro Fixer has worked well for me using a foam wax applicator for areas a machine can't reach. http://www.carpro-us.com/carpro-poli...-polish-250ml/ __________________ Roto-Fab intake, SW 1 7/8" LT w/hi flow cats, Flowmaster outlaw exhaust, UDP, 160* stat, Circle D 3200, Moroso catch can, TCI line lock, Zex Nitrous 125 shot, 3.91 gear, Eaton True-trac, DSS 1000hp axles.

09-28-2015, 10:39 AM	#10
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09-28-2015, 12:23 PM	#11
SilverSS1LE Drives: 2017 Summit White 2SS A8 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 312	i use nothing but adams on all of my vehicles and i can tell you the product speaks for itself. if hand waxing/polishing shows no enhancment of your paint then you are using a bad product. on very bad looking paint then machine polishing is a must, but for up keep and paint maintence hand polishing works wonders. just like JMT said its a zen thing, enjoy the day and enjoy what youve spent a lot of money on taking care of it and it will show __________________ 2017 Summit White 2SS A8 Mod List: Stock (for now)

09-25-2015, 08:13 PM	#3
Jackpot Drives: 2010 camaro ls Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NH Posts: 65	I would strip any wax or sealants , and clay only if needed do baggy test if unsure.

09-26-2015, 06:58 PM	#6
Adam's Polishes Drives: The shiny ones. Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: In the detail shop! Posts: 5,979	Like mentioned do the baggie test to see if you need to clay, if so clay first. Revive Polish is a hand polish & paint cleaner.

09-27-2015, 06:00 AM	#7
JMT Drives: 2013 1LT Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Panama City Beach, FL Posts: 703 View My Garage	I use all Blackfire products and yes you should remove the old wax for best results. I disagree with anyone saying waxing by hand is a waste of time. The results speak for themselves but far more important when using a buffer it seemed like work to me, when polishing by hand it became a zen thing, took my time and enjoyed the process and the day. Take breaks, relax and get a bond with your car!