02-10-2013, 09:56 AM | #127 |
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More choice almost always comes in at a greater expense. Unless you want to pay more for the v6 or the v8, you probably wouldn't like a turbo I4. That is my only opposition.
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02-10-2013, 10:01 AM | #128 |
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I don't know, and I don't want to know. Correct, it's lame.
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02-10-2013, 10:20 AM | #129 | |
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...Just because the I-4 technically can work in the new Camaro platform, doesn't mean it "has to" go in it...Get your 4 in a GM Cruze, Sonic, or Spark...Step up to the Camaro if you want more than that... |
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02-10-2013, 10:27 AM | #130 |
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I like to drive a manual and most people prefer the automatic. If GM took away the transmission choices and built only automatic camaros because it's more cost effective to build only one kind of transmission, most likely, I would have bought another car. That's why I am for more choices, be it transmission types or engine choices
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02-10-2013, 11:08 AM | #131 | ||
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I've been at this sort of decision point before, several times. In 1979 when we had a Malibu 2-door coupe built to order, it was the top-available engine for low altitude (with a 4M tranny, HD cooling and alternator). Since we never considered anything but a V8/MT coupe, it's as if all other variants were being sold on another planet. Same thing with the Mustang, except that I wasn't interested in the GT500 beyond wanting two sets of its front tire and wheel package fitted to my car on its build. That other versions exist still doesn't matter, so it really doesn't matter to me how they were equipped; none of them are in my driveway. Even the last time was a similar decision point, only it was H4 turbo vs either H4 NA (about 1/3 less power) or H6 NA (with similar power). While I know intellectually that the other versions exist (and are in fact more popular), it's not something I'd ever dwell on. If I wanted to think about it at all, it'd be really easy to come to the conclusion that I'd picked the best of the bunch while other buyers simply chose differently. I'm OK with that. Quote:
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02-10-2013, 11:48 AM | #133 |
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No one seems to be willing to answer the simple question "If no additional choices effect the
Essence or prestige of the Camaro, does the same apply to the Corvette?" Why not a 4 cylinder econo Vette? That won't hurt it's image will it?
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02-10-2013, 12:53 PM | #134 | ||
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The Camaro has a market that it earned, and it wasn't for fuel efficiency. Trying to "convince" their customers that GM knows what they "really" want is going to lose them their customer base. |
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02-10-2013, 01:13 PM | #135 | |
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Vette is a $50K starting performance car....period. It definitely stands to have its image tarnished much more than a Camaro would, with a turbo 4 cylinder engine going into it. Camaro starts in the low to mid 20s, which is a very resonable number for someone that may want a sporty looking car, something fun to cruise around or be seen in, but can't afford a top end model, like the Vette. But that has always been the case for Camaro and Mustang....you either get great looks at an affordable price, or great looks and performance for a little more. Vette on the other hand, has stood as a performance car for a very long time. With the Corvette, you get looks and great peformance at the starting price, and if you pay more, you get even better looks and AMAZING performance. Vette is not meant to be something every average Joe can afford to buy. Because of this, I don't think comparing the Camaro and the Corvette is fair.
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02-10-2013, 01:22 PM | #136 |
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Sort of agree about the 'Vette not being the "same" as the Camaro...on the other hand, the Camaro need not become an "economy" option more that it already is...as you say 20K for entry now, means we need another less expensive entry model?...
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02-10-2013, 01:30 PM | #137 | |
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Volume drives the business case plain and simple. So without a viable entry level Camaro, the SS/ZL1 can't exist unless you get it up to Corvette $$. And I'm not sensing a strong desire on this website to have a Camaro starting at $50,000.
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But I still hope to see a V6 option as well. More the merrier.
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