[SpeedIsLife]

You'll have people who max out a ZL1 and scream it's too expensive..

You'll have people who roughly match a Gen 5 and a Gen 6 ZL1 with similar equipment, comment it's too expensive and be told they're wrong because of "how much more stuff the Gen6 ZL1 has standard" even if it's not true because it's the familiar parroted line to defend Gen 6 price jumps

And then you'll have the most common folks who want a great performance car in todays market and don't really care about the price, because they can afford it and are willing to pay it.

[BradfordCamaro]

ZL1 was $65K CDN last year. $81K for the Z/28

[KaBoom1701]

65k will be the median price with the options....

I think we may see the same thing happen that happened with the Z/28...

Anything over 62-65k and people just start looking elsewhere.....C7 vetts ect...

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

65k will be the median price with the options....

I think we may see the same thing happen that happened with the Z/28...

Anything over 62-65k and people just start looking elsewhere.....C7 vetts ect...

Possible, unless there is something really, really buzz worthy about the new ZL1 that will draw people in.

The GT500 could be optioned up into the mid-high 60's also (it had the whole 662HP/200mph thing going for it) and the Hellcats start in the mid 60's (with the OMG 707 HP! thing)..

I'm not saying the ZL1 isn't going to be a great, class dominant performer..what I am saying is that so far it's not creating the wow's and sizzle like the GT500 and Hellcats did.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Possible, unless there is something really, really buzz worthy about the new ZL1 that will draw people in.

The GT500 could be optioned up into the mid-high 60's also (it had the whole 662HP/200mph thing going for it) and the Hellcats start in the mid 60's (with the OMG 707 HP! thing)..

I'm not saying the ZL1 isn't going to be a great, class dominant performer..what I am saying is that so far it's not creating the wow's and sizzle like the GT500 and Hellcats did.

But we still don't know the final HP figures either.....

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

But we still don't know the final HP figures either.....

Yep, that's why I said unless something really buzz worthy happens.

The 5th Gen ZL1 did spark a fire, create buzz and all that with topping the 2012 GT500's 550 HP with the 580 HP, the "most powerful Camaro ever" talk and it's awesome physical presence..etc..but that was 5 years ago. Now it's been topped in power, topped in top speed, topped in other metrics. The Gen6 ZL1 is going to be a fantastic, awesome performing car..but I worry that people will see it and not have that certain something, that buzz worthy chatter that the other cars did.

However, it's probably not going to top the 5.8 GT500's 662HP (it might tho) and it very likely won't top the Hellcats 707 HP..so it's going to have to create buzz some other way. Maybe really fast Nurburgring or other famous track times, or a stock sub 11 second quarter mile..or something like that.

It needs to create a splash, buzz...it's gotta have sizzle that non-car centric people will talk about. When the Hellcat was revealed, people who see a V6 Challenger..yet talk about the Hellcat. People marveled at a 200MPH Mustang..see what I'm meaning?

[hotlap]

Besting the Hellcats at the drags and the GT350R at the track while having heated and cooled seats would create a buzz.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Besting the Hellcats at the drags and the GT350R at the track while having heated and cooled seats would create a buzz.

That it would.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Yep, that's why I said unless something really buzz worthy happens.

The 5th Gen ZL1 did spark a fire, create buzz and all that with topping the 2012 GT500's 550 HP with the 580 HP, the "most powerful Camaro ever" talk and it's awesome physical presence..etc..but that was 5 years ago. Now it's been topped in power, topped in top speed, topped in other metrics. The Gen6 ZL1 is going to be a fantastic, awesome performing car..but I worry that people will see it and not have that certain something, that buzz worthy chatter that the other cars did.

However, it's probably not going to top the 5.8 GT500's 662HP (it might tho) and it very likely won't top the Hellcats 707 HP..so it's going to have to create buzz some other way. Maybe really fast Nurburgring or other famous track times, or a stock sub 11 second quarter mile..or something like that.

It needs to create a splash, buzz...it's gotta have sizzle that non-car centric people will talk about. When the Hellcat was revealed, people who see a V6 Challenger..yet talk about the Hellcat. People marveled at a 200MPH Mustang..see what I'm meaning?

I know exactly what you mean. I'm hoping the ZL1 will top the 662 hp of the GT500. I'm pretty sure we won't see it surpassing or matching the hellcat because it doesn't really need too since it weighs much less than the hellcat. If it does go over 662hp or come close to 707hp that's would be awesome and minds would be blown. I'm thinking 660 or 665hp. But I agree it needs to put a whooping on the hellcat and whatever ford has up its sleeve for the GT500.

[Heavymetal454]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Yep, that's why I said unless something really buzz worthy happens.

The 5th Gen ZL1 did spark a fire, create buzz and all that with topping the 2012 GT500's 550 HP with the 580 HP, the "most powerful Camaro ever" talk and it's awesome physical presence..etc..but that was 5 years ago. Now it's been topped in power, topped in top speed, topped in other metrics. The Gen6 ZL1 is going to be a fantastic, awesome performing car..but I worry that people will see it and not have that certain something, that buzz worthy chatter that the other cars did.

However, it's probably not going to top the 5.8 GT500's 662HP (it might tho) and it very likely won't top the Hellcats 707 HP..so it's going to have to create buzz some other way. Maybe really fast Nurburgring or other famous track times, or a stock sub 11 second quarter mile..or something like that.

It needs to create a splash, buzz...it's gotta have sizzle that non-car centric people will talk about. When the Hellcat was revealed, people who see a V6 Challenger..yet talk about the Hellcat. People marveled at a 200MPH Mustang..see what I'm meaning?

What exactly is buzz worthy? Just curious. More power, better handling, better cooling, more aggressive styling, interior refinements, possibly quicker than aforementioned cars, better braking. Named one of the top cars worth waiting for! Significant positive reviews from the Auto Show! Less expensive arguably with more to offer. Splash? I'm not sure I understand what else the car is supposed to do outside of being the most powerful Camaro ever produced. I'm feeling buzzed out already.

[IPAbeer]

I just figured I'd pass this info on but a local dealer is taking deposits and stated the ZL1 would be priced around $64 - 70k. That makes the decision easy for me, 1LE it is! He also gave me a $53k~ price on the 1LE, seems high to me but the salesman was going to get back to me when he had more info.

[Eric SS]

Originally Posted by IPAbeer

I just figured I'd pass this info on but a local dealer is taking deposits and stated the ZL1 would be priced around $64 - 70k. That makes the decision easy for me, 1LE it is! He also gave me a $53k~ price on the 1LE, seems high to me but the salesman was going to get back to me when he had more info.

That guy is smoking crack. 1LE will be a lot cheaper than that.

[IPAbeer]

Agreed!

[thescreensavers]

Its already been mentioned by AL that it will be more than 2015s price of 3500 and cheaper than ford performance pack iirc for the gt350 which is 6500

So between 3500-6500 your guess is as good as anyone's at this point

Base price of car + 1LE + destination fee