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10-23-2013, 04:27 PM | #142 |
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10-23-2013, 09:37 PM | #144 |
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[QUOTE=2cnd chance;7118476]Okay special.
Let me type slowly... 51% up front(ZL1) versus 50% up front(z28) is a 1% difference. UN-DER-STAND? Like I said in a previous post, some of the "special intelligent" wandered here from the Z28 forums, and they brought their condescending attitudes and, apparently, poor math skills. So sad, when how you are so eager to put someone down and make yourself look ignorant in the process. Please type more silly things to amuse me.
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10-23-2013, 09:42 PM | #145 |
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Not exactly accurate for everyone, My C6 Z06 was a handful at the limit. It always felt as if the tail was going to spin around out of control when pulling over high speed 1G. Some might handle that stress better than others. I DO believe the Z06 is the faster track car in the right hands, but the ZL1 makes it so damn easy to do over 1 G all day and not stress out. Hell, you can set it in PTM4 or 5 and rail it in hard, swinging the tail out without that feeling of "oh shit, I am gonna lose it!"
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You can't compare percentages between 2 different weighing cars without considering the weight difference itself. With that said I'll leave you to your...bliss.
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No, you got banned for your behavior right now. You are so mad that people think the Z/28 may be better than your ZL1 on the track that it is your mission in life to prove them wrong. The Z/28 will run a faster time than the 7:37 it ran because that was done with poor track conditions. Will it break into the 7:20s? I doubt it but Al O. said it will hit 7:31 and I believe it. Do we really need to go over the tire thing again? You can't accept the fact that the Z/28 has better tires for handling than the ZL1 and GM did that for a specific purpose. GM did not do that for the ZL1 and to change that would change the entire comparison. If ZL1 gets better tires then the Z/28 should get heads, cam and long tubes to make up for the power differential. Did you even read the quote I posted from JusticePete? Maybe you should before you spout off about the tires again. |
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10-24-2013, 10:50 AM | #148 |
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You are talking about the weight of each vehicle don't forget the downforce.
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10-25-2013, 02:18 AM | #149 | |
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As for my being banned from the Z28 LALA land. I got banned for calling certain "smart" persons retards. Because they said things that, in my not so humble opinion, sounded pretty retarded to me. My behavior of not agreeing with people in a forum, is exactly what forums are for. I don't have an interest in your or GM's Kool aid. But, you guys enjoy. Since the things said by GM are the only things you believe, ask them to give you ZL1/Race tire Track times at GM's test track. Or ask them why won't they tell you such times. Or ask them to perform a simple thing like pop some sticky rubber on a ZL1 and run it around their track. Bet you won't get a response, Bet they already know the times. In the middle of this thread F bod Dude made a little comment on this discussion. He didn't mention a thing about the tires, which were a huge, if not the biggest issue here. Why would he ignore the GIANT elephant in the room. I speculate, because to do so he would have to admit the Z28 wasn't much faster than the ZL1 on their track - and hurt their New Z28's marketing. Or, he would have to falsely say the tires made no difference, and then a Online reviewer will do a head to head comparison and make GM look like liars. Best PR move - Ignore the Giant elephant and let all speculate. They can't be crucified for what they never said. Someone please remind me which year it was where the C4 Camaro (Z28?) actually outperformed its contemporary, the C4 corvette, but GM decided not to use that very significant feat in their marketing, for fear (speculation) of hurting corvette sales. That fact could have helped save the C4 camaro, but It was probably doomed already from a history of poor sales. GM will never verify or advertise information that would take away from the hype of the Coming Z28. All I see is hype, though. Equal tires will show how they really stack up, and though the Z28 will nudge out a win, I think it won't be by much. You can have your opinion. This is mine. It is humorous that you people continue to argue over a point that you cannot prove, by saying, "GM said so" What else do you think they are going to say?! Search the ZL1 forum - foreign territory, I know - you will find a few people who have changed tires and drastically improved their track times. It is Factual and proven. Often about 3 seconds faster on tracks much shorter than "green hell" I myself know that better tires improve our performance 10 to 15%.
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Rotofab, grinding rear diff sound forever, dealer replaced supercharger - now i have a rattle when starting from a stop, ordered 2.35 lingenfelter pulley, hp tuner, belt, 100mm idler pulley, tr7IX spark plugs, wideband kit, long tubes with no cats...hoping for 650hp. dyno with rotofab = 518hp Last edited by NightmareZL1; 10-25-2013 at 03:35 AM. |
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10-25-2013, 02:48 AM | #150 |
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[QUOTE=2cnd chance;7121773]I concede, you are correct that I did not consider the weight difference between the two cars.
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10-25-2013, 09:28 AM | #151 |
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I want to see Chevy succeed with this car, but I am interested to see just who will buy one over a ZL1 or a Z06. It seems that the platform from which to work to make either car faster comes better suited in the ZL1. In the end, men are driven by horsepower and 505 HP over 580 is a tough sell. It would be for me at least. Chevy really hit a home run with the ZL1 as they are about to find out when these cars are placed side by side on the showroom floor. But then again one of the greatest tricks in marketing is making the customer believe less is more.
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10-25-2013, 09:48 AM | #152 |
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Lol seriously. As a ZL1 owner, I want the Z/28 to spank my car around a track. Some people in here really should open their eyes and see that there's nothing wrong with something being better than what you have. I got spanked in the 1/4 by the ugliest fox mustang ever. But he had so much under the hood. Did I rant and rave? Nope. Just be happy the big three are still making fast in your face cars.
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I still dont think the z28 and zl1 are going to be cross shopped against one another.
the z/28 is going to be more exclusive than the zl1 is. they are aimed at two different buyers.. ZL1s are like, "heres some beautiful cake, go ahead and eat it too if you would like" Z/28 rams it down your throat and tells you seconds...
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