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RubberChicken · 03-26-2014, 02:14 PM

I've seen several people mention suspension and long tubes as mods for the Camaro. But what do these mods do for you?

For example, does the suspension mod make for a smoother ride or something else?

squat · 03-26-2014, 02:19 PM

Suspension mods typically make the ride harsher, but decrease body roll. The purpose is to allow you to go around corners faster.

Long tubes are a different kind of headers that you put on. Headers are the first part of your exhaust system, they connect directly to the engine. The headers from the factory are short and rather heavy. After market long tube headers are typically lighter which reduces overall weight but they're also supposed to help optimize exhaust flow to increase horsepower.

RubberChicken · 03-26-2014, 02:27 PM

Excellent response. Thank you very much!

Gillis · 03-26-2014, 02:28 PM

Techincally these cars don't come with any headers they come with an exhaust manifold.

Headers replace the exhaust manifold, and as you said, increase the flow of exhaust out of the engine which increase HP and torque. With headers you also need to replace the stock catalytic converters with with high-flow cats or straight-thru pipe - which also increases the flow and HP/TQ.

RubberChicken · 03-26-2014, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gillis

Techincally these cars don't come with any headers they come with an exhaust manifold.

Headers replace the exhaust manifold, and as you said, increase the flow of exhaust out of the engine which increase HP and torque. With headers you also need to replace the stock catalytic converters with with high-flow cats or straight-thru pipe - which also increases the flow and HP/TQ.

That sounds like a pretty pricey mod. I think on some of these pricier mods I will wait until I buy a 1SS/2SS. The CAI was a good starter mod and I've added a couple of light kits that I bought from O'Reilly Auto. New wheels are a must as well.

Colt · 03-26-2014, 02:45 PM

Since you have the LLT engine I'd recommend getting a Black Ice-Olator, or the Mace Engineering version. It's another great bang for the buck mod for us V6ers.

If you are looking into suspension, sway bars and lowering springs are rather cheap and will have a big impact.

RubberChicken · 03-26-2014, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Colt

Since you have the LLT engine I'd recommend getting a Black Ice-Olator, or the Mace Engineering version. It's another great bang for the buck mod for us V6ers.

If you are looking into suspension, sway bars and lowering springs are rather cheap and will have a big impact.

Dammit I thought I was going to be able to buy groceries this month. Guess not now. Thanks!

JAX CAMARO · 03-26-2014, 02:52 PM

My Mods make me smile !

Colt · 03-26-2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RubberChicken

Dammit I thought I was going to be able to buy groceries this month. Guess not now. Thanks!

Haha the mod bug never goes away. Good luck with the car!

hrpiii · 03-26-2014, 03:23 PM

if you want to save money, have a moderator delete your account and remove this site from your favorites. Coming here will cost you every penny you make. Ask anyone that has been here for a year. You start out with a CAI, end up with all new suspension components, headers, super chargers, turbos, redone interior..and it just keeps on going.

woodside783 · 03-26-2014, 03:44 PM

It depends on what you want from the car. It is yours spend a lot or none at all. Mods make me happy. The car loves them

alaskacamaro · 03-26-2014, 03:59 PM

Once you get the modd bug, its hard to stop. Also, remember to have a tune done to you car when installing LTH's. If you don't you will be throwing CEL codes all over. Tuning (from a qualified person) will also give you the best power gains from them. Oh, and your powertrain warranty will be voided once you install the heads.

As other's have stated, suspension will improve overall handling of the vehicle but will make your ride stiffer. Depending on how involved you get with upgrading your suspension, you will also need a new alignment done.

Two modds I would recommend that are cheap and give you small power/throttle improvements are a cold air intake and a ported throttle body. Both are easy to install and also wont void your powertrain warranty (well I know a Roto-Fab cold air intake will not).

*The_Blur* · 03-26-2014, 03:59 PM

Long-tube headers have so far made my car sound awesome and given me a CEL to go with the power. That will be fixed soon.

Colt · 03-26-2014, 04:54 PM

Since you have the LLT engine, I would hold off on the headers until HP tuners comes out with their new tunes.

03-26-2014, 02:14 PM	#1
RubberChicken Drives: 2011 IBM 1LT w white Rally Stripes Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dallas Posts: 396 View My Garage	What do those mods actually do for you (or your car)? I've seen several people mention suspension and long tubes as mods for the Camaro. But what do these mods do for you? For example, does the suspension mod make for a smoother ride or something else? __________________

03-26-2014, 02:19 PM	#2
squat Drives: 2011 Dodge Charger Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MN Posts: 1,070	Suspension mods typically make the ride harsher, but decrease body roll. The purpose is to allow you to go around corners faster. Long tubes are a different kind of headers that you put on. Headers are the first part of your exhaust system, they connect directly to the engine. The headers from the factory are short and rather heavy. After market long tube headers are typically lighter which reduces overall weight but they're also supposed to help optimize exhaust flow to increase horsepower. __________________ 2011 Dodge Charger

03-26-2014, 02:27 PM	#3
RubberChicken Drives: 2011 IBM 1LT w white Rally Stripes Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dallas Posts: 396 View My Garage	Excellent response. Thank you very much! __________________

03-26-2014, 02:45 PM	#6
Colt Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS Victory Red Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 277 View My Garage	Since you have the LLT engine I'd recommend getting a Black Ice-Olator, or the Mace Engineering version. It's another great bang for the buck mod for us V6ers. If you are looking into suspension, sway bars and lowering springs are rather cheap and will have a big impact. __________________ Check out my Build Thread

03-26-2014, 02:52 PM	#8
JAX CAMARO Drives: orange 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: royersford Pa Posts: 1,081	My Mods make me smile ! __________________ ARH 1 7/8" Headers W/HFC, GM Performance Exhaust / K&N Typhoon CAI, Comp Custom Grind Dominator 3 Cam, Pioneer Dual Valve Springs, Trickflow Push rods, IWIS Timing Chain, Rapid Motorsports Tune, 496 RWHP

03-26-2014, 02:28 PM	#4
Gillis Drives: Car Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 185	Techincally these cars don't come with any headers they come with an exhaust manifold. Headers replace the exhaust manifold, and as you said, increase the flow of exhaust out of the engine which increase HP and torque. With headers you also need to replace the stock catalytic converters with with high-flow cats or straight-thru pipe - which also increases the flow and HP/TQ.

03-26-2014, 03:23 PM	#10
hrpiii AKA "Beefcake" Drives: 2023 ZL1 Sharkskin Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 8,529	if you want to save money, have a moderator delete your account and remove this site from your favorites. Coming here will cost you every penny you make. Ask anyone that has been here for a year. You start out with a CAI, end up with all new suspension components, headers, super chargers, turbos, redone interior..and it just keeps on going.

03-26-2014, 03:44 PM	#11
woodside783 Casey Woodside Drives: a very fun car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tn Posts: 1,906	It depends on what you want from the car. It is yours spend a lot or none at all. Mods make me happy. The car loves them __________________ Instagram @caseywoodside http://youtu.be/CSc9aPh_X_w

03-26-2014, 03:59 PM	#12
alaskacamaro Drives: 2012 2SS 45TH Anniversary Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 720	Once you get the modd bug, its hard to stop. Also, remember to have a tune done to you car when installing LTH's. If you don't you will be throwing CEL codes all over. Tuning (from a qualified person) will also give you the best power gains from them. Oh, and your powertrain warranty will be voided once you install the heads. As other's have stated, suspension will improve overall handling of the vehicle but will make your ride stiffer. Depending on how involved you get with upgrading your suspension, you will also need a new alignment done. Two modds I would recommend that are cheap and give you small power/throttle improvements are a cold air intake and a ported throttle body. Both are easy to install and also wont void your powertrain warranty (well I know a Roto-Fab cold air intake will not).

03-26-2014, 03:59 PM	#13
The_Blur Moderator Drives: 2018 Harley-Davidson Street Bob Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 14,769	Long-tube headers have so far made my car sound awesome and given me a CEL to go with the power. That will be fixed soon. __________________ RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet// Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. warn 145:159 ban

03-26-2014, 04:54 PM	#14
Colt Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS Victory Red Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 277 View My Garage	Since you have the LLT engine, I would hold off on the headers until HP tuners comes out with their new tunes. __________________ Check out my Build Thread