Camaro ZL1 Laps Nurburgring in 7:41.27. Enters Supercar Territory!!

[fiascoes1]

Originally Posted by radz28

I swear they said certified, but didn't specify. That leaves the door open to me...

it says certified check out http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...dyno_needle_to...

[fiascoes1]

www.caranddriver.com/news/car/11q3/2012_chevrolet_camaro_zl1_cranks_the_dyno_needle_to...

[SVT_SRT]

Not bad. The zl1 looked pretty gutted though. I am Not sure how much a roll cage adds. Ford has some work to do. Dodge should just quit.

[fiascoes1]

Originally Posted by fiascoes1

www.caranddriver.com/news/car/11q3/2012_chevrolet_camaro_zl1_cranks_the_dyno_needle_to...

sorry dont know if im doing this right, never done it before

[detltu]

simply amazing! I can't wait to get one.

[fiascoes1]

http://wot.motortrend.com/gms-reuss-...2qxKIXB4DD1cON check this video the guy says next might be a z28

[fiascoes1]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

While I'm not confirming or denying...........I have a few thoughts.......

to a few: "Oh ye of little faith -- have I led you wrong yet?"


to another few: $48K? you can buy one for $48K at www.notgonnahappen.com
(sorry, Peter --I know that's your line) - but I've said it dozens of times that there's no way a ZL1 will be 48K with the many features that are standard coupled with world-class performance....
Remember: The U.S. government is raising CAFE - not lowering it - and that will necessarily price V8s above where they used to be.........sorry, but that's the way things work.....if you don't like those rules, you need to vote in the coming elections........


Lastly: IT'S A GREAT TIME TO BE A CAMARO ENTHUSIAST!!!

We (that's you and me) have waited for the 5th gen......we waited and we won......and it keeps getting better!

Thank you most sincerely to those who have 'kept the faith' --

how about 49k?

[94turbolsx]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

I think the cage is necessary for the track run for safety reasons. If anything, it adds weight.

....as does the FULL trunk of heavy testing equipment. I have a feeling the 7:41 will be bested with a production car. Not by alot, but a wee little bit. The most interesting thing about this car, is gonna be how they price it. Even with the MRC and PTM, they would be pretty wise to not stray to far away from GT500 prices. As opposed to arrogantly overpricing on the fact you cant get MRC or an auto at any price on the GT500.

This car is gonna be a beast.

[2012ZL1]

to another few: $48K? you can buy one for $48K at www.notgonnahappen.com
(sorry, Peter --I know that's your line) - but I've said it dozens of times that there's no way a ZL1 will be 48K with the many features that are standard coupled with world-class performance....

Oh oh.
From the wording of this message I'm gonna read in that the ZL1 may be priced out side of its competitors range. That's unfortunate.

[Mr CLuTcH]

With a time like that, one thing is almost certain at this point, the 2012 ZL1 will absolutely dominate the current model year GT500 and most likely the 2012 model too. Chevy has really done they're homework with this one! A 50k muscle car which achieves a ring lap time 1-2 seconds within the same time of 200-300k exotics! That in itself is absolutely amazing! Great work Chevy! The GT500 will definitely have it's work cut out for it, but the GT500's problem has never really been making power consistently, it's biggest problem has always been-traction. It doesn't matter if you have 550hp or 700 like the SuperSnake, if you cannot put that power to the ground effectively and your competition can, YOU-WILL-LOSE. And right now, Im more than willing to bet the ZL1 will destroy the GT500 because of that very problem.

What Ford really needs to do is go back to the drawing board and refine the GT500's suspension and the chassis, and most likely give it an ECM tune which will easily bump up the power, and a very good set of tires, all while keeping they're prices within the ZL1's projected ballpark. If they cannot meet or exceed the ZL1 on the battlefield which is the tarmac, then Chevy will have indefinitely put a nail in Ford's side, in this ongoing Muscle-car showdown. Either way, the consumer wins. But I can tell you now, Ford and their many Mustang loyalist, will not swallow that lap-time easily, because it is definitely something the next GT500 will have to either meet or exceed, and Chevy set the standard high with this one! If you want to know if a Mustang fan has a thorn in his side, expect him to criticize, downplay or devalue this achievement by the Chevy ZL1, instead they should be praising it, then telling us "get ready, because now it's on"!

[BUMBLE-B-TUNA]

Pretty exciting stuff. I have no intentions of buying one but it sure gets the masses buzzing.

[1BADZL1]

$49,999.99?
I think I predicted that number somewhere on here?

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

With a time like that, one thing is almost certain at this point, the 2012 ZL1 will absolutely dominate the current model year GT500 and most likely the 2012 model too.

The current model year, on sale today at a Ford showroom near you, is the 2012 model.

I agree, however, that anyone who downplays this feat is a die-hard fanboy of another make or simply has no appreciation for what has been accomplished.

[LimaCharlie]

Amazing! The ZL1 is surrounded by $150,000+ cars. Some are well beyond that.