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01-12-2013, 03:34 PM | #63 | |
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Can anyone help disprove this "crackpot" theory? If you can explain the $6K price difference between the 2 models another way, then please do so. Otherwise, it is pretty obvious that V8's will be reserved for the fat-cats. I had a hard time justifying the $6K at the time I bought mine, and I'm sure it already puts the current V8 out of the reach of many potential customers. Have you ever heard of "Ockham's Razor"? It applies to these situations. "Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate'' |
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THIS IS MURICA THEY CANT TAKE MAH VEE ATE AWAY!!!
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Give me a 6th Gen, big V8, no AFM on the manual trans.... and I'll buy a new one every two years. Not a fan of direct injections, but I guess I could live with it if they work out the problems.
I'd really rather just have a 6th gen with a 427, no AFM, no direct injection, 6 spd manual with 3.91s and current SS gearing, stronger driveline from the clutch to the axles... stick a 12 bolt carrier inside a stronger alum diff housing (ala hammerhead), ditch the rubber doughnuts in the driveshaft. All in a body like a '69 Z28 that has been dechromed/slammed/pro toured. Yes, it wouldn't have the greatest mileage. I'll pay the government their gas guzzler money grab. |
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Things that cost more to make an SS Vs an Lt model; The front fascia (probably cost more) with factory spoiler. The radiator. The engine. The transmissions(auto&manual) The differential. The suspension The exhaust system. Four wheel Brembo disc brakes. 20'' staggered wheels with premium Pirelli tires. There`s probably a few trim items and other things I left out but that was some of the more major items I could think of right off the top of my head. You really didn`t give it that much thought did you. |
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Here's the MSRP for the SS and LT Radiators: $337.85 - SS $322.77 - LT That's $15.18 difference in RETAIL price! Here's the MSRP for the SS and LT Engines: $4,438.89 - SS $4,391.67 - LT This amounts to a $47.22 difference in RETAIL price. I could go on and on, but you're not going to listen. You are also likely falling into the trap of thinking that as a consumer you pay a ton of money to get a set of brembo brakes, therefore GM must also be paying that same price, which they obviously do not. Most of the parts on your list (radiator, exhaust, suspension, differential) are essentially identical between the SS and LT models, with the LT versions being slightly smaller or less robust. They are typically manufactured using the same methods and machines and take the same time to build, so the cost to GM to make an SS version amounts to a few ounces of raw metal ore. Not a big difference. Quote:
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Since the percentage of oil we import was 20% then and is 60% now, the CAFE standards have clearly proven to be another spectacular success story of regulatory actions! (Right up there with the war on poverty, which has increased in spite of trillions of dollars thrown at it). CAFE has outlived its usefulness, and we must progress past these outdated documents from bygone eras. The people who wrote CAFE could not possibly know that in 4 decades we would have Hybrids, and Direct Injection, and the Internet. Obviously, they were a bunch of backwards old guys with thick glasses, funny suits, and odd hairstyles who could not possibly know how to write a regulation for the modern era. We need to move forward past CAFE, and make sure that everyone who wants a V8 Camaro will be able to purchase one at a reasonable price. The biggest crime would be to deny the average Camaro enthusiast the ability to purchase and enjoy the Camaro he/she wants with whatever engine they prefer. |
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This is what new GM crate motors go for. I would be very curious where you got those figures for a V8 and V6 that amounts to a $47.22 difference in retail price when Goodwrench crate motors are a difference of almost $3,100! I understand what the assembly plants pay for is alot different than what you or I would pay, but a $47.22 difference between the two is a little hard to believe. 12652805 3.6 Ltr - 220 C.I.D. - New RETAIL: $4,691.10 http://www.crateenginedepot.com/36-L...50881C611.aspx LS3 6.2L Crate Engine old 19244097 new 19258770 RETAIL: $7,760.95 http://www.crateenginedepot.com/LS3-...10590C943.aspx |
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