Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Bigwormgraphix
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Technical Camaro Topics > Dragstrip and Launch Techniques Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-05-2016, 08:40 AM   #29
djpelosi

 
djpelosi's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Cordova, TN
Posts: 774
Quote:
Originally Posted by camarosspower View Post
My best time with bolt ons was 12.6@114 with a 1.9 60'. After being cammed I can't get below 2.2 with the best time being 12.3@118
Try launching at 2500 and slip the clutch
__________________
2010 Camaro 2SS M6
2" Stainless Power Longtube Headers
3" Full exhaust w/ Off-Road H-Pipe
Bo White Ported Throttle Body
Hurst Short Throw Shifter
Best Time: 12.43 @ 114, 1.99 60' on stock wheels and stock tires
Build Thread
djpelosi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2016, 09:13 AM   #30
camarosspower


 
camarosspower's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 camaro ss
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Port Arthur, Tx
Posts: 2,383
Yea that was the plan for whenever I go again. Idk if I will since I'll probably sell the car. Recently got a l99.
camarosspower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2016, 09:46 AM   #31
Pro Stock John
Writer
 
Pro Stock John's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 7,216
L99 cars are way easier to drag race.
__________________
PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY
Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I | Part II
13.15@106 1.95 | 100% Stock
12.37@112 1.85 | + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune
12.06@113 1.70 | + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune
11.84@115 1.59 | + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts
10.90@125 1.47 | + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800
Pro Stock John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2016, 09:48 AM   #32
djpelosi

 
djpelosi's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Cordova, TN
Posts: 774
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pro Stock John View Post
L99 cars are way easier to drag race.
And way less fun to drive.
__________________
2010 Camaro 2SS M6
2" Stainless Power Longtube Headers
3" Full exhaust w/ Off-Road H-Pipe
Bo White Ported Throttle Body
Hurst Short Throw Shifter
Best Time: 12.43 @ 114, 1.99 60' on stock wheels and stock tires
Build Thread
djpelosi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2016, 09:54 AM   #33
blufin

 
blufin's Avatar
 
Drives: Fire Engine
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: WPB, Florida
Posts: 1,415
Quote:
Originally Posted by camarosspower View Post
Basically all you do is pull the e brake when you are staged up. Rev up to desired rpm and start releasing the clutch to the point where its slipping. You will notice that the car locks in basically like a automatic when you press the brake and gas at the same time. Then on the last yellow light release it normally. There is a guy on here that's running 12.0 with just headers and tires. Its not working for me but I guess it might just be that I need tires
That technique sounds like it may be your problem. If I understand it correctly, you are revving the motor and slipping the clutch, but holding the car from moving by using the ebrake? On the last yellow, you release the ebrake and take off from there?
When you foot brake an automatic and bring up the revs, you are loading the converter. M6 cars don't have a converter so that manuever you were doing is a wasted effort. Sounds pretty complicated to get a successful launch outta that. Not sure where you picked that up, but it's definately a new one on me.
The l99 will be much easier to launch and with a few boltons, you'll be flyin!
Good luck
__________________
12.618 @ 110.75 Bone Stock 1/4 mile
8.165 @ 86.52 Bone Stock 1/8 mile
11.189 @ 124.44 on a 1.73 60' TVS2300 3.4 pulley, JRE tuned, Kooks LT headers and HF cats, MBRP catback exhaust, CAI intake, ADM scoop. Stock wheels/tires.
Sold
blufin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2016, 11:36 AM   #34
camarosspower


 
camarosspower's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 camaro ss
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Port Arthur, Tx
Posts: 2,383
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pro Stock John View Post
L99 cars are way easier to drag race.
Yea I bet.
camarosspower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2016, 11:37 AM   #35
camarosspower


 
camarosspower's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 camaro ss
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Port Arthur, Tx
Posts: 2,383
Quote:
Originally Posted by djpelosi View Post
And way less fun to drive.
Yes sir I have to put the forsale sign on it but every time I ride in it can't seem to let go. Especially with all the suspension mods
camarosspower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2016, 12:09 PM   #36
PostNup
CAR-DASHIAN
 
Drives: 2015 Ashen Gray Metallic 2SS/RS L99
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 540
Line lock is easier than the hand break.

Like posters above have stated with the e-brake, it allows you to load up the suspension like an automagic so the is car is squatting and there is no slack in the drive line from sitting there with the clutch pushed in. That initial slack take up does two things. 1, it costs you time and 2, it shocks the rear suspension making it easier to spin and therefore making it a one-two punch to your 60' times. Could possibly let you go a little farther on power before having to get axles - unless you are a maniac on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts!!

Granted, with a twin disc clutch this is going to take a little more effort as they clamp so much harder than stock and they really don't like slipping that much. finding that sweet spot where it loads the suspension without starting to smell from the slipping is a little bit of trial and error but I loved it and it made a world of difference my 94 Formula - the relevant mods on that for this thread being: 4:10 gears, Nitto DRs, McCloud Street twin clutch and full BMR suspension.

She would spin the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts pretty good and chirp the 3-4 and 4-5 shifts, but dead hook at 2800rpm and after 5-10 launches my 60's dropped from 2.2-2.3 to a best of 1.79.

Also, releasing a line lock button got my hand back on the steering wheel a lot faster and is way less complicated than dropping the e-brake handle then trying to reach up to the steering wheel when all h3ll breaks loose.
__________________
PERFORMANCE: ColdAirInductions CAI, ADM Race Scoop, Cordes Performance Racing Ported TB/IM/Custom VVT Cam, WFO Milled Heads, Stainless Power 1 7/8" LT/3" HFCs, JBA 3" Comp. Cat-Back, Taylor 10.4mm Plug Wires, Tim King Performance Stage 3 6L80, Circle D Billet 3600 Stall, Nic D ECM/TCM Tune, - 458rwhp/413rwtq (prior to PIM), Forgestar F14 (F)18" / (R)17" Rims.

SUSPENSION: Z/28 Rear UCA Bushings, Carlyle Racing LCA/TA, BMR Adj. Toe Rods/Xtreme Anti-Roll Bar, Justice Pete Castor Locks/Radius Rod Inserts, Pegasus Billet Rear Cradle Bushings, Mickey Thompson Street SS II 305/45/17 tires.
PostNup is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2016, 12:19 PM   #37
camarosspower


 
camarosspower's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 camaro ss
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Port Arthur, Tx
Posts: 2,383
Quote:
Originally Posted by blufin View Post
That technique sounds like it may be your problem. If I understand it correctly, you are revving the motor and slipping the clutch, but holding the car from moving by using the ebrake? On the last yellow, you release the ebrake and take off from there?
When you foot brake an automatic and bring up the revs, you are loading the converter. M6 cars don't have a converter so that manuever you were doing is a wasted effort. Sounds pretty complicated to get a successful launch outta that. Not sure where you picked that up, but it's definately a new one on me.
The l99 will be much easier to launch and with a few boltons, you'll be flyin!
Good luck
I'll be going for 10's in the l99. Lol
camarosspower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2016, 03:53 PM   #38
ytown87

 
ytown87's Avatar
 
Drives: C6 Corvette
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 1,264
Quote:
Originally Posted by PostNup View Post
Line lock is easier than the hand break.

Like posters above have stated with the e-brake, it allows you to load up the suspension like an automagic so the is car is squatting and there is no slack in the drive line from sitting there with the clutch pushed in. That initial slack take up does two things. 1, it costs you time and 2, it shocks the rear suspension making it easier to spin and therefore making it a one-two punch to your 60' times. Could possibly let you go a little farther on power before having to get axles - unless you are a maniac on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts!!

Granted, with a twin disc clutch this is going to take a little more effort as they clamp so much harder than stock and they really don't like slipping that much. finding that sweet spot where it loads the suspension without starting to smell from the slipping is a little bit of trial and error but I loved it and it made a world of difference my 94 Formula - the relevant mods on that for this thread being: 4:10 gears, Nitto DRs, McCloud Street twin clutch and full BMR suspension.
I need to try this method. Went to the track last weekend and still couldn't get below 2.2 60'. Didn't even break into 11's and was trapping 127. I was much much quicker 60' and 1/8 prior to cam and twin disc clutch....I'ma just join the Mexico racing league
__________________
2008 C6 m6. Carbon creations front/rear carbon fiber wodebody fenders. Carbon fiber hood carbon fiber roof hoop carbon fiber zr1 extreme spoiler. NW 102mm tb. Ported intake manifold. Cometic .040 head gaskets. LG motorsports G6x3 cam. DSX flex fuel sensor. AEM methanol kit. Z06 brakes. Ebiach sway bars. ZR1 rep wheels and Nitto Invo tires. Monster stage 3 twin disc clutch. MGW short shifter. Corbeau race seats. Gforce race harnesses. SLP loudmouth 2 mufflers. Carbon fiber exhaust tips. RPM stage 4 transmission and Stage 3 rear diff. 3.73 gears. Vararam cai. Kooks 1 7/8 headers and x-pipe.
ytown87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2016, 04:31 PM   #39
camarosspower


 
camarosspower's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 camaro ss
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Port Arthur, Tx
Posts: 2,383
Quote:
Originally Posted by ytown87 View Post
I need to try this method. Went to the track last weekend and still couldn't get below 2.2 60'. Didn't even break into 11's and was trapping 127. I was much much quicker 60' and 1/8 prior to cam and twin disc clutch....I'ma just join the Mexico racing league
You should try it if you have drag radials or slicks. I noticed it launches much harder this way so you'll just spin on street tires. MRL is where the funs at!!
camarosspower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2016, 08:23 PM   #40
Pro Stock John
Writer
 
Pro Stock John's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 7,216
Quote:
Originally Posted by djpelosi View Post
And way less fun to drive.
I might disagree.
__________________
PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY
Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I | Part II
13.15@106 1.95 | 100% Stock
12.37@112 1.85 | + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune
12.06@113 1.70 | + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune
11.84@115 1.59 | + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts
10.90@125 1.47 | + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800
Pro Stock John is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2016, 08:37 AM   #41
ytown87

 
ytown87's Avatar
 
Drives: C6 Corvette
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 1,264
Quote:
Originally Posted by camarosspower View Post
You should try it if you have drag radials or slicks. I noticed it launches much harder this way so you'll just spin on street tires. MRL is where the funs at!!
I'll give it one last shot and then I'm sticking to MRL. I am now 220hp/260tq more than I was a year ago and have only dropped .4 while increasing 17mph more than my best run when I was only headers and a tune. Both on DR's. Heck...I was able to hit 1.8's 1.9's consistently on Pirellis back then!
__________________
2008 C6 m6. Carbon creations front/rear carbon fiber wodebody fenders. Carbon fiber hood carbon fiber roof hoop carbon fiber zr1 extreme spoiler. NW 102mm tb. Ported intake manifold. Cometic .040 head gaskets. LG motorsports G6x3 cam. DSX flex fuel sensor. AEM methanol kit. Z06 brakes. Ebiach sway bars. ZR1 rep wheels and Nitto Invo tires. Monster stage 3 twin disc clutch. MGW short shifter. Corbeau race seats. Gforce race harnesses. SLP loudmouth 2 mufflers. Carbon fiber exhaust tips. RPM stage 4 transmission and Stage 3 rear diff. 3.73 gears. Vararam cai. Kooks 1 7/8 headers and x-pipe.
ytown87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2016, 12:50 PM   #42
camarosspower


 
camarosspower's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 camaro ss
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Port Arthur, Tx
Posts: 2,383
Let us know how you do
camarosspower is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.