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Because it's Cadillac, and the auto mags have led average Joe Consumer to think that DOHC is vastly superior to OHV. That and the TT3.6 probably looks more fuel efficient on paper. |
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LTG doesn't work with the 5th gen because the 5th gen is overweight. That's what happens when you're forced to build a sports coupe on a full size sedan platform. Alpha was engineered with weight savings in mind. That makes the concept of a turbo 4 a much better proposition.
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A 300HP turbo I4, a 450 HP twin turbo V6, a 500HP V8, and a 650 HP SC V8. Would make a pretty good lineup for the C6 Camaro.
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What is the benefit of the LF3 in the Camaro? |
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Interesting, I just found that the 300 HP turbo I4 is true and reportedly confirmed:
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2014...NEWS/140229850 and on point #2 Hmm... Quote:
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06-23-2014, 08:28 PM | #104 |
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This is exactly what I've been thinking GM would do. It lines up nicely with the competition both on the domestic and foreign sides. This should give GM some significant latitude in performance comparisons across markets, too, provided they take sub-SS performance seriously.
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Well CTS-V is coming soon -- LT4 for sure, and there have been some rumblings of an ATS-V -- time will tell...
I would need to see the specs of an LF3 including weight, etc., someone posted saying it's pretty heavy, but I have always wondered why a top-dog V6 was not offered. i.e. why do you have to only offer a 1LE/ZL1 with all the aero goodies, offer a balls-out V6 too! Why not. |
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06-23-2014, 08:53 PM | #108 | |
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I think you're going to get a surprise.
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06-23-2014, 08:54 PM | #109 |
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Even if the car heavier than that, it will benchmark against the EcoBoost Mustang. I've never known GM to intentionally offer an inferior product against a direct performance competitor.
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06-23-2014, 08:59 PM | #110 | |
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- nearly as much peak torque available from 3000 RPM* earlier and - 300+ lb weight advantage? No surprise here. * 2015 ATS coupe offers 295 lb-ft starting from 3000 RPM, not 260 ft-lb from 1700 RPM, even so... That was rough guess based on the ATS coupe's weight, I hope a 6th gen Camaro with the turbo four isn't even that heavy, but I can't imagine it'd be more than 3450. Last edited by oklapike; 06-23-2014 at 09:07 PM. Reason: added quote and updated numbers |
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06-23-2014, 09:07 PM | #112 | |
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Stuffing more weight in the nose of a Camaro for roughly the same performance numbers as an LT1 simply adds co$t & complexity against competitors (Stang/Challenger) who don't have anything comparable. The ONLY upside: mpg...which, at this moment, is NOT an imperative, but MAY be soon. If the Mustang got the EcoBoost V6, as well, then things might get interesting. Who's going to blink first? |
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