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Old 08-09-2014, 08:28 PM   #43
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Looks like lower profile tires. Single resonator. Shorter rear overhang. Looks to me like it is using front wheels off of a C5 all the way around. There is a small naked piece on the rear bumper and you can kind of make out some detail on the rear valence under the camo. The roof, side windows and rear view mirrors look close to the current C5. Overall looks smaller but hard to tell by how much.
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:33 PM   #44
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I am worried that the camaro will stay ahead in styling and fall behind in weight/performance. I know its a big car but it can't compete with Mustang unless they drop weight. Just think how much lighter the stang would be if it had a SBC like the LS3. I can't remember exactly how much less the motors weight but an LS3 is way lighter. at least 30-50 lbs and its 6.2L vs 5.0. Just saying. We need weight loss. Lots of aluminum parts would help.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:14 PM   #45
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what I see here is a c7 style hood and rear window. gen 3-4 squarish headlights (yes I can pick them out although like everyone says its probly not the real bumper/fascia and they may have the headlights covered with square holes) and the one car has a big dovetail ala gen 1-2.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:15 PM   #46
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if they drop 3-400 lbs the Camaro will be on par if not faster than the 5.0 on the line. its already a drivers race most times now anyway
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:23 PM   #47
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New round of 2016 Camaro spy photos, this time we have close-up shots of a large test group rushing to get back to the safe confines of the General Motors Proving Grounds.

This particular test group--8 or 9 cars strong--consisted of solely high-performance variants. There didn't seem to be a six-cylinder in the bunch, and they made one serious roar as they tried to streak past the photographer's lens.


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Is that the gas tank showing or a big muffler?
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:39 PM   #48
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I am worried that the camaro will stay ahead in styling and fall behind in weight/performance. I know its a big car but it can't compete with Mustang unless they drop weight. Just think how much lighter the stang would be if it had a SBC like the LS3. I can't remember exactly how much less the motors weight but an LS3 is way lighter. at least 30-50 lbs and its 6.2L vs 5.0. Just saying. We need weight loss. Lots of aluminum parts would help.
Coyote weighs less than the LT1.. LT1 does pack more technology. I'd go with SBC all day long.
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:51 PM   #49
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It's really hard to see anything significant. The rocker panels, side windows, and a-pillars look very similar to the 5th gen. The car seems to have a high belt line again too.
The hump around the rear window is not the real body line of the car. It is used to hide the exact profile of the car.
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Old 08-10-2014, 12:08 AM   #50
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Is that the gas tank showing or a big muffler?
Its trunk space for the T-tops #3 has a Mohawk and the others have reverse mohawks. #3 also appears to have wider tires.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:31 AM   #51
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I'm wondering if that's a giant single muffler under the tail. I can't really tell where the outlets are coming from in these pics. If it is that might mean no more true duals.
Yeah, it looks like the late 80's exhaust setup, single pipe running to one muffler with an outlet on each end.
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Old 08-10-2014, 01:52 PM   #52
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I am worried that the camaro will stay ahead in styling and fall behind in weight/performance. I know its a big car but it can't compete with Mustang unless they drop weight. Just think how much lighter the stang would be if it had a SBC like the LS3. I can't remember exactly how much less the motors weight but an LS3 is way lighter. at least 30-50 lbs and its 6.2L vs 5.0. Just saying. We need weight loss. Lots of aluminum parts would help.
5.0 vs 6.2 is a wash..they weigh very close and put out similar numbers stock.
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Old 08-10-2014, 01:53 PM   #53
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Since its the Alpha platform, the 4-pot will be the engine from GM's european brands Vauxhall and Opel (its used in the Astra GTC VXR).



Plus, its the engine slated for the ATS Coupé.

400Nm of Torque and 276bhp will really hurry the new Camaro along. It only takes 5.7s to do the 60mph sprint in the Astra, and that car weighs 1.5 tones (Camaro LS V6 is 1.7t) Since the ATS 4-door is 1.5t, the Camaro should theoretically weigh less. I'm hoping 5.5s.

I hope, though, that they decide to go with the engine out of the Astra VXR Extreme, which is a 300bhp unit. To me, it makes the v6 redundant and it'd turn the LS and LT trims from "pretty cool sports car" to "surprisingly very fast sports car."

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This is getting more and more excited for 2016 to be released but I don't know if I should wait or just get a 2014-2015 for a good rate. Decisions decisions!
This is what I'm thinking, since I want to import a Camaro and I don't know if I should wait for a Gen 6 or grab a Gen 5 in a firesale. With all the extra fees associated with importing, I'd save a fortune.


And now my unrelated thoughts on something else entirely.

Of course, if the Gen 6 comes in RHD then its a no brainer for me in the UK.
Ford making the 2015 Mustang in right hand drive has pretty much guaranteed them easy money, as the UK is one of the most important markets for sports cars.

GM would do very well to follow suit as Camaros are insanely desireable in the UK. Mustangs depreciate (surprising for such a sought after exotic import), but Camaros two/three years later, even the Automatic, still sell for £30,000 with 5-digit milages - they're £35,000 new. That's 85%! Convertibles still rake in 75%. GM wouldn't be able to screw the RHD models together fast enough.
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Old 08-10-2014, 01:54 PM   #54
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Coyote weighs less than the LT1.. LT1 does pack more technology. I'd go with SBC all day long.
A pushrod does not pack more tech. Its one cam and 16v, the ford is definitely more tech 4v 4 cams getting 435 hp out of 5.0L.
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Old 08-10-2014, 02:15 PM   #55
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Hurts my head to try to figure anything out , But was wondering if any of you talented people have lined up the drawing discovered at the GM plant( the one with the photo that was in the background )with any dimensions of this car ?
This one? (just a quickie)



Parts of it line up pretty nicely (especially if we stick with the false 5th gen fascia and deck lid strapped on idea) while other parts of it are clearly off.

Still might be some styling hints in there...
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:06 PM   #56
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5.0 vs 6.2 is a wash..they weigh very close and put out similar numbers stock.
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Regardless of what it’s called, this new engine is one trick piece. With a bore of 3.629 inches and a stroke of 3.649, displacement is roughly 302 ci or 5.0 liters (nitpickers can do the math). Weighing in at a scant 444 pounds it churns out 435 hp/400 lb-ft of torque.
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A key to engine building is how many ponies you can pump out per pound, and that is exactly why Chevy went to such great length to minimize the engine’s weight. In fact, this 6.2-liter engine weighs just 465 lbs and is 25.3 inches tall, and develops 455 horsepower and 460 lb.-ft. of torque (460 horsepower and 465 pound-feet of torque with optional performance exhaust).
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