1ss dynoed and weighed - Page 2

ChefBorOzzy · 11-10-2015, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Won't happen this time...but that's exactly what happened with the 5th Gen.

Just not 100 lbs

That's what happens year to year as changes are made to cars.

ADM PERFORMANCE · 11-10-2015, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

It's possible the numbers are not corrected, the part thats shows that is blocked off. Also, differnt dyno, different day. This one seems a tad high to me as the other runs have been 399, 400 and 405 that I've seen.

Curious, anybody know if these are the same cars?

Knock versus no knock,probably bad gas

SS 1LE · 11-10-2015, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

Knock versus no knock,probably bad gas

Do you know if the car had premium fuel in it? Wonder if some of those other dynos had regular fuel by mistake. Just odd as three are so close, then one is a decent amout higher.

*DGthe3* · 11-10-2015, 07:25 PM

I am extremely weary of any early dyno results. Not because I think the cars are ringers, but because I suspect a lot of people that want to post numbers up, do it explicitly because they want to show everyone some big numbers. Doesn't matter whether its a private owner or a shop thats about to start selling products. Some might say a shop would be prone to lowballing the 'before' to make their stuff look better, which is true. But if you have a dyno that tends to read high you'll also post better gains vs a more conservative dyno.

Even in the coming months when people do a before & after, I'm still skeptical that it might be a 'happy' dyno. If you dyno your car, are you going to be more likely to post it if the number is high or if its low?

KMPrenger · 11-10-2015, 09:42 PM

Guys this was posted on the "other" forum.

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It was on ADMs dyno which is the dyno I use and it's pretty stingy. I was present for the pull today. 399 was with pump gas and it knocked, so they put a couple of gallons of race gas in it and it put down the 417. Same conditions otherwise.

I think it's interesting. Find it here: http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/show...postcount=2516

SS 1LE · 11-10-2015, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Guys this was posted on the "other" forum.

I think it's interesting. Find it here: http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/show...postcount=2516

Wonder why it had some knock? My guess is it had regular fuel in it. Does Dallas TX (where the shop is I think) have 91 or 93 premuim?

SpeedIsLife · 11-10-2015, 10:04 PM

Hopefully it had rot gut in it...ping/knock on 91 would suck

Dreng · 11-10-2015, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

Wonder why it had some knock? My guess is it had regular fuel in it. Does Dallas TX (where the shop is I think) have 91 or 93 premuim?

To answer your question yes. Some petro stations have 91 and some offer 93 around here.

ADM PERFORMANCE · 11-11-2015, 06:34 AM

Based on all of the data it lands anywhere just shy of 400 rwhp and just slightly north of 400 rwtq. This was real world data with some knock retard in the datalog. Cooling it off,pulling the air filter tricks blah blah blah may show slight gains.

As for race gas comments,the car had a near full tank of gas.A bit difficult to put gas on top of gas to any substantial effect.

Cars dyno 8-15 hp different all the time day in and day out run to run,just asking any shop that does what we do everyday.

In conclusion- Gm built a lightweight,strong chassis,powerful emissions friendly car ....... Good job

mcsoul · 11-11-2015, 06:36 AM

I think 417 is the outlier (race gas??) and 400 ish to just over is truth. But it puts it down really well as evidenced bu the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times which are right in line with that power.

ADM PERFORMANCE · 11-11-2015, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mcsoul

I think 417 is the outlier (race gas??) and 400 ish to just over is truth. But it puts it down really well as evidenced bu the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times which are right in line with that power.

Look what I found -

The result: All of it, and more! On Addiction Motorsports’ Dynojet, the 2016 Camaro SS with the six-speed manual threw down a stout 405.2 hp and 405.4 lb-ft at the wheels on its best run, with power and torque increasing with each of our three pulls.

Looks consistant to me !

NASTY99Z28 · 11-11-2015, 07:54 AM

What does a c7 put down?

mcsoul · 11-11-2015, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

What does a c7 put down?

Very similar, 402-405hp in the c7 threads I read.

xgnxs · 11-11-2015, 08:05 AM

Yep, weight lines up exactly, even taking the missing fuel into account.

11-10-2015, 07:25 PM	#18
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	I am extremely weary of any early dyno results. Not because I think the cars are ringers, but because I suspect a lot of people that want to post numbers up, do it explicitly because they want to show everyone some big numbers. Doesn't matter whether its a private owner or a shop thats about to start selling products. Some might say a shop would be prone to lowballing the 'before' to make their stuff look better, which is true. But if you have a dyno that tends to read high you'll also post better gains vs a more conservative dyno. Even in the coming months when people do a before & after, I'm still skeptical that it might be a 'happy' dyno. If you dyno your car, are you going to be more likely to post it if the number is high or if its low? __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

11-11-2015, 06:34 AM	#23
ADM PERFORMANCE Drives: Anything I want Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DfW - Texas Posts: 5,405	The car makes around 400 rwhp Based on all of the data it lands anywhere just shy of 400 rwhp and just slightly north of 400 rwtq. This was real world data with some knock retard in the datalog. Cooling it off,pulling the air filter tricks blah blah blah may show slight gains. As for race gas comments,the car had a near full tank of gas.A bit difficult to put gas on top of gas to any substantial effect. Cars dyno 8-15 hp different all the time day in and day out run to run,just asking any shop that does what we do everyday. In conclusion- Gm built a lightweight,strong chassis,powerful emissions friendly car ....... Good job

11-11-2015, 07:54 AM	#26
NASTY99Z28 Drives: 99z28 with bolt-ons and a mwc fab 9 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 1,277	What does a c7 put down? __________________ I like my woman like my milk shakes, THICK!!!!

11-10-2015, 10:04 PM	#21
SpeedIsLife Drives: Current Camaro-less Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,242	Hopefully it had rot gut in it...ping/knock on 91 would suck

11-11-2015, 06:36 AM	#24
mcsoul Drives: Want a gen 6 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: 75089 Posts: 1,032	I think 417 is the outlier (race gas??) and 400 ish to just over is truth. But it puts it down really well as evidenced bu the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times which are right in line with that power.

11-11-2015, 08:05 AM	#28
xgnxs Drives: 2005 Cobalt Base - 5 speed Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 444	Yep, weight lines up exactly, even taking the missing fuel into account.

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