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KGoddard · 02-06-2016, 11:11 AM

This morning I went to start my ls3. I went to turn it over and it made a bunch of grinding noise. I was half asleep so I'm not sure if I had the clutch in or not and I believe it was in first. Is this something I need to worry about? On the drive to work I noticed the clutch slip some when letting it out. However it only did this at higher rpms and coming out of first from a stop. If I let it or slower and kept the rpms low it didn't slip. I'll see what it does when I leave. What do you'll think? Did I mess something up in the tranny??? Car only has 24k on it.

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Jay_D · 02-06-2016, 11:22 AM

It's unlikely you messed the clutch or tranny up, unless there has been a long pattern of abuse. GM builds a solid tranny and the clutch they use in the camaro is pretty stout.

ChrisBlair · 02-06-2016, 01:37 PM

You had the starter motor engaged after the engine had started: the key was still in the 'start' position.

KGoddard · 02-06-2016, 01:59 PM

That's what I figured. The motor wasn't started yet though.

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ChrisBlair · 02-06-2016, 02:21 PM

Then that is impossible. Only keeping the starter engaged after start-up would produce the sound I am thinking of, or a weak bendix spring. You don't have a weak bendix spring.

if the clutch was not in, and you were in gear, when you keyed the engine the car would physically surge forward or backwards, depending on the gear.

KGoddard · 02-06-2016, 02:25 PM

Haha yeah sorry I didn't think about that. You are right. As I said I was not fully awake when it all happened.

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The Dutchman · 02-06-2016, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KGoddard

Haha yeah sorry I didn't think about that. You are right. As I said I was not fully awake when it all happened.

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A little advice... do yourself and everyone else on the road a favor and make sure you're fully awake before you get in your car and drive.

christianchevell · 02-07-2016, 06:47 AM

And yes the starter is a weak link down there subjected to heat all the time... I have already had to replace mine at 16000 miles. But I have headers also , the weak link of the transmission is the : fact it fouls the brake fluid with its grunge: thank god I have a separate reservoir I got from gen5diy , and change it out regularly, and the other wink link is the throw out bearing support being made of plastic, Monster makes a billet support to keep from plastic melted nightmare on the slave cylinder which I have seen on here before.... Good Luck, noise could have been squirrels...sticky solenoid, ricers moving out from under your big car......

Xeno13 · 02-07-2016, 07:43 AM

Your car will not start unless the clutch in pressed in and you foot is on your break - it has a built in safety feature

HOJO · 02-07-2016, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Xeno13

Your car will not start unless the clutch in pressed in and you foot is on your break - it has a built in safety feature

I must have an issue. Only clutch has to be depressed in order to start mine, no need to have foot on brake. Are you sure about that, just asking.

GMTool · 02-07-2016, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KGoddard

This morning I went to start my ls3. I went to turn it over and it made a bunch of grinding noise. I was half asleep so I'm not sure if I had the clutch in or not and I believe it was in first. Is this something I need to worry about? On the drive to work I noticed the clutch slip some when letting it out. However it only did this at higher rpms and coming out of first from a stop. If I let it or slower and kept the rpms low it didn't slip. I'll see what it does when I leave. What do you'll think? Did I mess something up in the tranny??? Car only has 24k on it.

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Grinding noise and clutch slipping. I would be very concerned. I believe these cars are impossible to get that starter grind by turning the key when the engine is already running. I would be trying to duplicate the noise and slipping to decide if it was just me being asleep or it's really and issue. It's probably under warranty so get er fixed.

Angrybird 12 · 02-07-2016, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

Then that is impossible. Only keeping the starter engaged after start-up would produce the sound I am thinking of, or a weak bendix spring. You don't have a weak bendix spring.

if the clutch was not in, and you were in gear, when you keyed the engine the car would physically surge forward or backwards, depending on the gear.

Im pretty sure the starter is not supposed to engage if the clutch is not fully depressed.... Unless the clutch interlock switch went bad like it did on my S-10.

rontammy0 · 02-07-2016, 10:24 AM

The car does not start unless the clutch is in....and it also won't turn over when in gear.

mar10 · 02-07-2016, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rontammy0

The car does not start unless the clutch is in....and it also won't turn over when in gear.

Mine starts in gear as long as I have the clutch pressed in.

02-06-2016, 11:11 AM	#1
KGoddard Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NOVA Posts: 351 View My Garage	Should I be concerned?? This morning I went to start my ls3. I went to turn it over and it made a bunch of grinding noise. I was half asleep so I'm not sure if I had the clutch in or not and I believe it was in first. Is this something I need to worry about? On the drive to work I noticed the clutch slip some when letting it out. However it only did this at higher rpms and coming out of first from a stop. If I let it or slower and kept the rpms low it didn't slip. I'll see what it does when I leave. What do you'll think? Did I mess something up in the tranny??? Car only has 24k on it. Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk __________________ 12.3 @113MPH - Full Bolt-Ons w/ Nitto 555r on 18" wheel

02-06-2016, 11:22 AM	#2
Jay_D Drives: 2013 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 45	It's unlikely you messed the clutch or tranny up, unless there has been a long pattern of abuse. GM builds a solid tranny and the clutch they use in the camaro is pretty stout. Last edited by Jay_D; 02-06-2016 at 12:35 PM.

02-06-2016, 01:37 PM	#3
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	You had the starter motor engaged after the engine had started: the key was still in the 'start' position. __________________

02-06-2016, 01:59 PM	#4
KGoddard Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NOVA Posts: 351 View My Garage	That's what I figured. The motor wasn't started yet though. Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk __________________ 12.3 @113MPH - Full Bolt-Ons w/ Nitto 555r on 18" wheel

02-06-2016, 02:21 PM	#5
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	Then that is impossible. Only keeping the starter engaged after start-up would produce the sound I am thinking of, or a weak bendix spring. You don't have a weak bendix spring. if the clutch was not in, and you were in gear, when you keyed the engine the car would physically surge forward or backwards, depending on the gear. __________________

02-06-2016, 02:25 PM	#6
KGoddard Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NOVA Posts: 351 View My Garage	Haha yeah sorry I didn't think about that. You are right. As I said I was not fully awake when it all happened. Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk __________________ 12.3 @113MPH - Full Bolt-Ons w/ Nitto 555r on 18" wheel

02-07-2016, 06:47 AM	#8
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,587 View My Garage	And yes the starter is a weak link down there subjected to heat all the time... I have already had to replace mine at 16000 miles. But I have headers also , the weak link of the transmission is the : fact it fouls the brake fluid with its grunge: thank god I have a separate reservoir I got from gen5diy , and change it out regularly, and the other wink link is the throw out bearing support being made of plastic, Monster makes a billet support to keep from plastic melted nightmare on the slave cylinder which I have seen on here before.... Good Luck, noise could have been squirrels...sticky solenoid, ricers moving out from under your big car...... __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

02-07-2016, 07:43 AM	#9
Xeno13 Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE / Nightfall Grey Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Montana Posts: 114	Your car will not start unless the clutch in pressed in and you foot is on your break - it has a built in safety feature

02-07-2016, 10:24 AM	#13
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	The car does not start unless the clutch is in....and it also won't turn over when in gear.