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Camaro68396 · 04-11-2014, 07:11 PM

In the June 2014 issue of Hot Rod, they pitted the '14 Z/28, 1969 Camaro "Big Red", and 2013 Boss 302 against eachother on the Barber Road Course in Birmingham, Alabama. The Big Red was driven by it's owner/builder, R.J. Gottlieb, and Randy Pobst, the owner of the Boss 302, drove the other two on the same day as Big Red ran on the same track. The Big Red crashed into a barrier after a couple laps into it. The Big Red also had so much power it kept slipping on the dyno, so the dyno stats below for the Big Red are the best they could achieve with that particular dyno.
Specs
Z/28: Engine - 7.0L V8
Redline - 7,000 RPM
Horsepower - 505
Torque - 470 ft lb
Transmission - Tremec 6-Speed
Brake Diameter - 15" Brembo
Calipers - 6 Piston front/4 Piston rear
Weight - 3820 lbs (NON-air)
Suspension - Coilover 4.5 link independent rear
Rear Gears - 3.91:1
Wheels - 19x11 front, 19x11.5 rear
Tires - Pirelli PZero Trofeo 305/30R19

Big Red: Engine - 540ci Donovan V8
Redline - 7,000 RPM
Horsepower - 850
Torque - 701 ft lb
Transmission - Liberty 4 Speed
Brake Diameter - 14" Baer
Calipers - 6 Piston Baer
Weight - 3,300 lbs
Suspension - Coilover and 3 link rear
Rear Gears - 3.91:1
Wheels - BBS 18x11 front, 18x12 rear
Tires - Hoosier A6 315/30R18 front, 335/30R18 rear

Boss 302: Engine - 5.0L Coyote
Redline - 7,500 RPM
Horsepower - 444
Torque - 380 ft lb
Transmission - Tremec 6-Speed
Brake Diameter - 14" Brembo
Calipers - 4 Piston front/single Piston rear
Weight - 3632 lbs
Suspension - MacPherson strut front, solid rear axle
Rear Gears - 3.73:1
Wheels - 19x9 front, 19x9.5 rear
Tires - Pirelli PZero Max Performance 255/40R19front, 285/35R19 rear

Best Laps/Max Speed:
Z/28: 1.36.17/123.54
"Big Red": 1.41.84/134.88
Boss 302: 1.40.50/117.93

Everything is pulled from the Hot Rod magazine, if I typed anything wrong let me know so I can correct it.

tw78911sc · 04-11-2014, 07:15 PM

same driver, same day?

LOWDOWN · 04-11-2014, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tw78911sc

same driver, same day?

Big Red driven by it's long-time owner-builder (and a serious driver), R.J. Gottlieb, who likely got all he could...

Randy Pobst drove the other two, same day as Big Red ran, same track...

Muscle Car Lover · 04-11-2014, 08:51 PM

Not an OG-riginal DZ-302

LehmanZ06 · 04-11-2014, 09:48 PM

The owner of big red should have let Randy drive.

He probably wouldn't have crashed it.

Big red time meaningless since probably big driver difference.

04-11-2014, 07:11 PM	#1
Camaro68396 Drives: 1968 Camaro SS 396 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Dornsife, PA Posts: 21	2014 Camaro Z/28 vs 1969 Camaro "Big Red" vs 2013 Mustang Boss 302 In the June 2014 issue of Hot Rod, they pitted the '14 Z/28, 1969 Camaro "Big Red", and 2013 Boss 302 against eachother on the Barber Road Course in Birmingham, Alabama. The Big Red was driven by it's owner/builder, R.J. Gottlieb, and Randy Pobst, the owner of the Boss 302, drove the other two on the same day as Big Red ran on the same track. The Big Red crashed into a barrier after a couple laps into it. The Big Red also had so much power it kept slipping on the dyno, so the dyno stats below for the Big Red are the best they could achieve with that particular dyno. Specs Z/28: Engine - 7.0L V8 Redline - 7,000 RPM Horsepower - 505 Torque - 470 ft lb Transmission - Tremec 6-Speed Brake Diameter - 15" Brembo Calipers - 6 Piston front/4 Piston rear Weight - 3820 lbs (NON-air) Suspension - Coilover 4.5 link independent rear Rear Gears - 3.91:1 Wheels - 19x11 front, 19x11.5 rear Tires - Pirelli PZero Trofeo 305/30R19 Big Red: Engine - 540ci Donovan V8 Redline - 7,000 RPM Horsepower - 850 Torque - 701 ft lb Transmission - Liberty 4 Speed Brake Diameter - 14" Baer Calipers - 6 Piston Baer Weight - 3,300 lbs Suspension - Coilover and 3 link rear Rear Gears - 3.91:1 Wheels - BBS 18x11 front, 18x12 rear Tires - Hoosier A6 315/30R18 front, 335/30R18 rear Boss 302: Engine - 5.0L Coyote Redline - 7,500 RPM Horsepower - 444 Torque - 380 ft lb Transmission - Tremec 6-Speed Brake Diameter - 14" Brembo Calipers - 4 Piston front/single Piston rear Weight - 3632 lbs Suspension - MacPherson strut front, solid rear axle Rear Gears - 3.73:1 Wheels - 19x9 front, 19x9.5 rear Tires - Pirelli PZero Max Performance 255/40R19front, 285/35R19 rear Best Laps/Max Speed: Z/28: 1.36.17/123.54 "Big Red": 1.41.84/134.88 Boss 302: 1.40.50/117.93 Everything is pulled from the Hot Rod magazine, if I typed anything wrong let me know so I can correct it. __________________ My rides: 1977 Camaro Type LT project Parents rides: 1968 Camaro SS 396 1971 Chevy Custom Camper 20 pickup Last edited by Camaro68396; 04-11-2014 at 09:02 PM.

04-11-2014, 08:51 PM	#4
Muscle Car Lover Drives: 2014 2SS M6 "CHRISTINE" Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Boston Metro North Posts: 2,916 View My Garage	Not an OG-riginal DZ-302 __________________ "But, House Mormont remembers. The North remembers! We know no King but the King of the North whose name is Stark. I don't care if he's a bastard. Ned Stark's blood runs through his veins. He's my king–from this day until his last day." Mods: ARH headers and hi flow cats, VMAX ported throttle body, CAI air intake, Slowhawk Performance tuning

04-11-2014, 07:15 PM	#2
tw78911sc Drives: 14 1SS Camaro 1LE, NPP, Recaros Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: NC Posts: 819	same driver, same day?

04-11-2014, 09:48 PM	#5
LehmanZ06 Drives: Z28 want Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: South Florida Posts: 129	The owner of big red should have let Randy drive. He probably wouldn't have crashed it. Big red time meaningless since probably big driver difference.