03-31-2013, 08:06 AM | #393 | |
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...and upgraded almost exactly like it was in 69 as a road-racer first with cowl induction, beefy brakes, wide tires...etc http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/...camaro-z28.htm |
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For record; Chevy nailed the Z/28 perfectly imo. It's probably the purest performance car to hit the market in a long time. Also consider racing improves the breed and you can bet they will gather data and experience from this car and apply it to the upcoming 6th gen. |
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While you're at it, include links on the Gen 2/3/4. |
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03-31-2013, 08:24 AM | #396 | |
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Maybe you'll get your 2/3/4th gen wishes with the 6th Gen, but the same old I don't like the Z/28 posts are pretty weak. |
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03-31-2013, 08:40 AM | #397 | |
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I'm curious to see what they do with the Gen 6, but I have no desire to see the Z/28 name anymore. If they're turning into a novelty car, stick to your guns and keep it that way. There were other options to fill the "track gap" but whatever. I think it was designed to go up against Ford at that track, not with the consumer in mind. |
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03-31-2013, 09:23 AM | #398 | |
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The Z28 was aimed at the consumer, just like the IROC cars which were stickered to look like the racing IROC cars so consumers could drive around in something that had the labels of the racing cars but was just a street car. And they were priced accordingly because consumers on the street DON'T need ANY of the features of a true IROC or Z/28 car. As for the "60k garage statue" remark, you'd be amazed at the money people have spent on their "non-novelty" 2010, 2011, 2012 Camaros. Many are at that 60k mark and higher so just because you don't want to spend that much on a Camaro doesn't mean others don't or won't. Do you go racing? No? Then this new Z/28 is not designed for nor intended for you. Do you go to a few HPDE events a year? The 1LE is the model for you. Why not a Z/28 for HPDE? Although it would be killer, it's going to be expensive to run. Going through $3k worth of tires every other weekend event is not practical. A 1LE will be more than capable for all but a very few weekend warriors and the tires (which they'll go through) will be much cheaper. This new Z/28 is going to bring racing glory to the Camaro name. And in a few years they may come out with a Z28 street car which will be basically like a 1LE but with Z28 badging for the consumer who likes to wear a Kobe Bryant jersey around town even though there's no way they'll ever even be on a pro basketball court, much less play pro basketball.
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03-31-2013, 10:00 AM | #399 |
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It's a Z/28 thing....some will never understand.
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I am thankful that GM has made an ultimate Camaro in the new street legal road race car. It is very nice!
What I would ask, is what GM will do to insert a product in-between the 154hp gap between the 1LE and the ZL1? - if I split the power difference, I see that's in the ~503hp range. Could we please have a 1LE stage II with an LS7?
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Motor Trend's artical on the reveal.
http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/co...28_first_look/
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I think I see why GM opted not to stick an LS7 in a current chassis and place it between the 1LE and ZL1; the weight to power ratio would be too close to the new Z/28.
But... with the Z/28 being a track prepped car, there could be a gap car made for the space between 1LE and ZL1 as a factory street brawler. SS, 426hp/3860lbs = 8.8 hp per pound 1LE,426hp/3800lbs= 9.0hp per pound - OPTION??? -- 1LE with an LS7 (~505hp/3800lbs) = 7.6hp per pound Z/28, 505hp/3800lbs = 7.5hp per pound ZL1, 580hp/4120lbs = 7.10hp per pound NEW Z/28 - BASE PRICE $60,000 (est) VEHICLE LAYOUT Front-engine, RWD, 4-pass, 2-door coupe ENGINE 7.0L/500-hp (est)/470-lb-ft (est) OHV 16-valve V-8 TRANSMISSIONS 6-speed manual CURB WEIGHT 3800 lb (est) WHEELBASE 112.3 in LENGTH X WIDTH X HEIGHT 192.3 x 76.9 x 52.4 in EPA CITY/HWY FUEL ECON Not yet rated ON SALE IN U.S. Spring 2014 Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2P8LFsfdq
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What it was, to what it was turned into. If this new car means something to you, enjoy. Look at it in the garage or put it on the track & tear it up. They should have called this new car a Camaro TB. Leave the z/28 as a performance option and keep your novelty Track Bastid seperate. But, what's done is done. Things change and not always for the best. I also did not make any "garage statue" remark, that's my signature. I'm not surprised by how much folks will spend on upgrading their cars, the aftermarket is huge. You can look all over these forums and see some impressive mods and beautiful cars. One more reason that it wasn't necessary to reinvent or destroy an icon. |
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There isn't room for BOTH an LS7-1LE AND a Z/28 as announced, with regard to weight-to-power. Now a 3500 lb Gen-6, suitably suspended and -braked, teamed with a 475 hp LT1 would be badge- and volume-worthy...
On this day of rejoicing...let's rejoice that we got what we got! Stay tuned... |
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