[BATMAN!]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

1 letter and a few vid clips...

GT500 slayer it is not.

Be careful I posted what I have now seen you do many times and have been threatened with a ban. Should be noted that I was straight forward with my facts and somebody didn't like it. He/she? was even nice enough to tell me to go back to svt or Fords are us.

To be fair I could have left out the word dumbest.

[avcbm]

[QUOTE=porcupinekiller;5004377]Guess you missed this. Back when the ZL1 was still being referred to as the Z28.
http://www.camaro5.com/new-photos-ca...-against-gt500QUOTE]

I remember that, you know what's amazing; if you go back and read it... you can really see who was really hyped..... about the Z28 aka ZL1, now it's like a punch in the gut...... all the air just went out.... Not for me, I'm still getting my ZL1, it will be at the dealer hopefully tomorrow.... for me it was more than just horsepower, but I have to admit it's like a drug, all that power at your hands for the same price.... but I want the whole package, handling, looks, power ect.... anyway just thought it was amazing to go back and look at all the talking that was done....

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by Thyshallsmite

Well can't even buy a 2013 right now, so thats always a thing lol :P though it would kind of bug me in the back of my mind that the bass mouth gt500 would out run me, plus i definitely could not afford to go from a new 2013 to a 2014 after only 1 year of ownership. Zl1 is no doubt the better looking car and more comfortable and probably handles itself a little better around the track and comes in automatic(don't be hating) and mylink is awesome and is technically cheaper than gt500 with track package, but its not the faster car, which in the back of my mind would bug me, esp since you know the 2014 is gonna be the peak of the camaro zl1 before the regulations come down hard on our gas guzzlers. Though not 100% sure on that prediction, know GM said it was gonna fire back, but when, will it be 2014? or much later down the line when tech makes cars both super fast and efficient? If 2014 isn't gonna see any changes though i'll definitely be grabbing a 2013, though i got a feeling 2014 will be 700hp+.

I here ya about buying one right now, I have planned out to get one for mid 2014. If I could do it now I would, but gotta do it when it's right. When I do get it, I might take to the 1/4 track a couple times, but I don't think I would focus on dominating, only to challenge myself. If I get to the point that I can handle the power and I need more, then I will deal with that at that point. But the main reason for getting it is the styling AND the all around performance and technical wizardy you might say. These are good times.

[eolson]

Again, we need to wait and see how full out road course times look in these cars. Since there is no Nurburgring time for the GT500, maybe they can manage a race in one of the huge unused car plant parking lots here in Detroit and give us an official time of some sort right against the ZL1. Erik

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

1 letter and a few vid clips...

GT500 slayer it is not.

They were refering to the '12 and it was all in good fun in my opinion.

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by Blueclyde

I think you need to get with the times. This is no longer the 1960's and custmers' expectations have chaged a lot. Again, 1/4 mile time do not matter and are not the sole measure of a car's performance. The ZL1 was never made with the intention of dominating the 1/4. There is a COPO Camaro for that. Please get with the times and understand what some are trying to present here. Probably no reason for you to be entering this discussion on your 2nd post here.

COPO'S dont count since they are a limited production and not streetable.

[BATMAN!]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

COPO'S dont count since they are a limited production and not streetable.

Would be sweet if they did make them streetable stripped down with a roll cage and all.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

They were refering to the '12 and it was all in good fun in my opinion.

I wonder what the rags are going to run first...the 2012 GT500 vs ZL1 or '13GT500 vs ZL1.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

Has GM lied to us about anything that really has an impact on our decision to be loyal to the cars of our choice?

I don't know. That isn't the question that I asked and I'm not an insider. That's why I asked and insider to explain the statement he made.

Don't try to turn this simple question into an argument because that's not what I'm looking for here.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by BATMAN!

Would be sweet if they did make them streetable stripped down with a roll cage and all.

no no no! then the rich knuckleheads who can't drive will buy them, crash them, kill themselves in the process and phuck up for the rest of us in the way of higher insurance premiums for "dangerously powerful streets cars."

[eolson]

What's the point of bringing up the 2012 Gt500's VIR time, we need to see the new cars time. Erik

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I don't know. That isn't the question that I asked and I'm not an insider. That's why I asked and insider to explain the statement he made.

Don't try to turn this simple question into an argument because that's not what I'm looking for here.

Yes, but the question you posed to Fbod wasn't all that simple now was it?

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by eolson

What's the point of bringing up the 2012 Gt500's VIR time, we need to see the new cars time. Erik

Who brought that up?

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

Yes, but the question you posed to Fbod wasn't all that simple now was it?

No disrespect ,but my question wasn't to you anyway. All we are doing is going off topic by keeping with this back and forth. If he wants to reply to the question fine. If not, well then that's fine too.

I done on this topic.

Back to the real topic whatever that is. I'm not sure.