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Old 11-28-2013, 08:06 PM   #71
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God forbid if you go over in this particular thread, it seems.
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:07 PM   #72
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I'm guessing the price will start with 69....

$69,795.00 + destination charges. Optional equipment at extra cost. Dealer markups not included.

There, you saw it here first. LOL
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:02 PM   #73
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Z/28 base price = gt500+svtpp+track package price + gg tax +/- $1300 period
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Old 12-01-2013, 06:47 PM   #74
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Time for a new ride soon....6th Gen or 5th Gen Z28? Hmmm....
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:26 AM   #75
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I guess i need to read other stuff than car and driver..................just so you know all these things cost quite a bit coming from dealer. I'd say more than you think, i have worked in various manufacturing industries so i know how much mark ups work coming from GM. Then again i know they have added various components to compensate the cost savings. But it should not be anything over $65k(base no including anything else) my guess $59,999

"Weight is said to be down by some 300 pounds versus the ZL1 and 100 versus the SS, which would put it in the neighborhood of 3800 pounds. Still no flyweight, but you can’t say the Camaro engineers didn’t give it their all. Besides the A/C delete, other weight-saving measures include thinner rear glass, the use of manual front sport seats, deleting the tire-inflation kit (except where required by law), removing the interior sound deadening, tossing the trunk carpet, adopting a lighter battery, and removing HID headlamps and fog lights from consideration. There’s also no stereo. Chevy says it wanted to delete the audio system entirely, but that federal regulations required one speaker be left in the car for the seatbelt chime. The team also stripped out the unused wiring for the fog lamps, speakers, and A/C. Chevy says that the C7 Corvette fills its two-seat obligation, and so the rear seats stay. But the pass-through is gone and high-density foam has been subbed in for some of the weightier innards, so they’re nine pounds lighter."
So you worked in manufacturing...doesnt mean you know anything about what GM will price the Z28 at. They've already said north of the ZL1. And just because you delete the rear seat, doesnt make up for the $5000 Carbon brakes, or the $2500 Recaro seats, or $2000 in tires etc....
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:43 PM   #76
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Base price for the Z/28 will start with a 6...

What happens in dealer showrooms, after that, is strictly up to YOU.

...and the more chitter-chatter about $80K+ pricing is just giving "those" dealers more impetus to prove YOU CORRECT!
...yeah ADM's, I sat in a 2014 Stingray here with a 5 hung over it, and I gawked at a Lime Rock Green Z51 in the middle of the showroom that was locked and loaded...and I mean loaded at 72 and sweet as all HE double hockey sticks with 6.5 over MSRP.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:38 AM   #77
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The true problem to this is that the mainstream expects the car to be the "Z28" and not the "Z/28" - there is a difference in the / added to the name.

The generations since the 1970's have grown up seeing a "Z28" - thinking that it is the top dog of the Camaro lineup, and therefore something that should be affordable by all - I wouldn't be surprised if GM has a "Z28" prepared for the next release (2016?) and that this is a last blast for the 5th gen before it changes completely.

I wouldn't be surprised if GM is trying to push this car out to show the world - look everyone, we can do it too - we have awesome technology and can do anything the way we want to. "We are the new GM".

They want people to take notice. Who cares if it costs 80,000.00. The Lamborghini that has a slower lap time is more than twice as much for price - and I know - "It's a Camaro, it should be affordable".

Says who? You? And you are?

The producer of the product determines the price based on supply and demand. There are other factors that go into that decision, I know - but in the end, GM could say "f the numbers, we want to build a supercar Camaro and it'll cost 200k and blow the doors off a ferrari."

The price will be met, they will sell vehicles, and it'll probably be to the people they are trying to impress.

Gotta think about the bigger picture here. GM is trying to make the world notice. I think they are doing their jobs just fine.

Yes you want a Z28 - is this a Z28? Nope. Have some patience. This is a Z/28 and it was meant to be driven crazy.

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FYI- list of times on the Nürburgring Nordschleife

7:37.4 - Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 (2014) - [ base price: ????? (est. $60,000-$70,000) ]
7:37.9 - 991 Porsche 911 Carrera S - [ base price: 88,038 euro (or $126,000) ]
7:38.0 - Lexus LFA - [ base price: $375,000 ]
7:38.0 - Porsche 911 Turbo - [ base price: $123,695 ]

I believe at this point you get the idea. You are in supercar territory with this Camaro, and you are expecting bottom basement prices? Sorry, very doubtful on that.
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Old 12-03-2013, 07:42 AM   #78
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Yes you want a Z28 - is this a Z28? Nope. Have some patience. This is a Z/28 and it was meant to be driven crazy.
No, I don't want a Z28.
Yes, I DO want a Z/28 and I already DO have a Z/28 (1969) and I have driven it crazy many more times than you can imagine.
I want a new Z/28 and I WILL drive it crazy as well.
We'll see how GM plays their hand on the 2014 Z/28, then we can ascertain how serious GM is of providing a serious car at a somewhat affordable price without gouging the consumer. Yes it is going to be expensive relative to the first Z/28's. We will see real soon I suspect.
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Old 12-03-2013, 10:46 AM   #79
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...yeah ADM's, I sat in a 2014 Stingray here with a 5 hung over it, and I gawked at a Lime Rock Green Z51 in the middle of the showroom that was locked and loaded...and I mean loaded at 72 and sweet as all HE double hockey sticks with 6.5 over MSRP.
The first Stingray my dealership got in, had a $20k mark up. $72k MSRP with the mark up for a total of $92k and it sold.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:00 PM   #80
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There is no way this car comes out at $54,350 if it does buy 2, thats my plan.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:26 PM   #81
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There’s also no stereo. Chevy says it wanted to delete the audio system entirely, but that federal regulations required one speaker be left in the car for the seatbelt chime. The team also stripped out the unused wiring for the fog lamps, speakers, and A/C. Chevy says that the C7 Corvette fills its two-seat obligation, and so the rear seats stay. But the pass-through is gone and high-density foam has been subbed in for some of the weightier innards, so they’re nine pounds lighter."
Darn. No BA? The rear seats will be uncomfortable? I won't be able to pick up 2x4s from Lowe's? I will just have to keep my 1LE.

My 1LE does all that and beats Boss 302s and some GT500s at the drag strip. And I hear it's very good at AutoX. I know Chevy is shooting for the ultimate track 5th gen. But maybe they went too far for a tenth of a second here and there.

They also would have made more potential buyers happy if they would have just made the Z/28 a 1LE+LS7+Recaros+ZL1 brakes package added to any SS.

I am not saying I do not like the Z/28, it shows real corporate brass cojones. I have a great respect for courage. But the Z/28 may not be the wisest use of the 427 mystique. Which is why I still think we may see something like what I am saying before the 5th gen bows out.

There are quite a few here who can afford to buy a Z/28 at whatever price it comes in at, but are not willing to spend so much on a toy car. And many more who just couldn't pony up the money even if they liked the tail lights.

The original Z/28 was affordable to the middle class. This one is only for the top 2.32% of us. That is the sad part of this Z/28.

Edit: Oops, back on topic-> $66,795 (without air)
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:58 PM   #82
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There is no way this car comes out at $54,350 if it does buy 2, thats my plan.
Even if it does, don't you worry... the dealer's "additional markup" will take care of it.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:27 PM   #83
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I don't think gm's worried about the sales numbers. The z/28 is just as much of a marketing tool as it is a revenue stream for them.

Making it affordable to the masses is not on their agenda for this one. I don't see how people think mid 50's or 60's is possible when you've got 20k worth on brakes/rotors on the car.

Gm doesn't care what's fair or reasonable. They no damn well they can sell 2k of these for 80k plus.

Shit if you could pre-order now for 85k, I believe they would already have 2k pre orders!

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Old 12-03-2013, 03:22 PM   #84
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I don't think gm's worried about the sales numbers. The z/28 is just as much of a marketing tool as it is a revenue stream for them.

Making it affordable to the masses is not on their agenda for this one. I don't see how people think mid 50's or 60's is possible when you've got 20k worth on brakes/rotors on the car.

Gm doesn't care what's fair or reasonable. They no damn well they can sell 2k of these for 80k plus.

Shit if you could pre-order now for 85k, I believe they would already have I've 2k pre orders!

I've said this multiple times here but I will say it again. The Corvette Z06 had the Z07 package which included new CC brakes, wheels and tires, and the MRC suspension. It was less than $10K for the package.
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