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I didn't know that the muscle cars were aggressive looking in the past! Which the 10-13 years is Retro after! I don't hate the refresh because it's something for everyone! But don't make it seem like the 14 is better because it looks more aggressive. Which I agree! |
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Thanks for posting, they need to take off its jacket
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And sometimes a next Gen can be a big step backwards.
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07-18-2014, 09:40 PM | #329 | |
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Yes it should be a Camaro.........we just have to be prepared to change with the times on what that means. I fear that GM won't have the courage to be great and will shackle themselves to the past out of fear and we will have 2003 alllllll over again.
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From Dodge's website. http://www.dodge.com/en/challenger/YOU EITHER TAKE POWER OR YOU FEAR IT.
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07-18-2014, 09:44 PM | #331 |
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#2.99 says it is a cobbled up mule to throw everyone off from the spectacular grounding breaking all new real 6th Gen that will have jaws dropping.
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That would be great! But, LEAD the power war! At least give the option available for those who want it. That's all I say. BANG.
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So it has external airbags as a safety option?
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07-18-2014, 09:58 PM | #334 | |
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The GenIV died not because of lack of muscle........it died because the foundation car as a V6 SUCKED!!!!! I could take a cracker box and put 708 HP in it and the "muscle" fans would buy it simply because it was 1 more than the Fiat. The Camaro, in order to survive, has to go beyond "muscle" and simply be a great automobile. I worked there. We accomplished great things on my teams that would be a huge list most of which GM gets no or little credit for. I know the people there and I know what they are capable of. Taking a an ATS coupe and making a 7/8 scale Gen5 Camaro with more HP could be done by the Chinese. What I want is the best work that the people I know are capable of making. I want great. I want industry changing. I want Dearborn confused and I want Italy afraid. I........want..........MORE
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"Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley SO.... for that, we must have MUSCLE = HP to the wheels! = MODERN pleasure!! (so we are on the same page actually!!) Edit: Also... I really like GM. But isn't it interesting how Fiat is tapping nostalgia with a modern technology?
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07-18-2014, 10:36 PM | #336 | |
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No one is buying a Camaro for fuel efficiency. They want it because it is an iconic symbol with a rich heritage, it's affordable and is aggressive. Removing more aggression will hurt sales. People don't want a soft, fuel efficient Camaro. There are plenty of vehicles to choose from if you want a "sporty" sedan. This is the first time in ages...maybe ever...the Camaro is consistently outpacing the Mustang, and it's because it is the more aggressive car. The Mustang looks like a plastic toy next to a Camaro.
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