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Old 08-26-2013, 02:55 PM   #29
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I can honestly say that I don't believe there is a limit to human creativity. Maybe performance cars won't require 400 hp to get the same performance numbers, maybe lighter weight designs and materials come into play...
...or they could add rocket ship tips
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:57 PM   #30
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...or they could add rocket ship tips
But still nobody will wave back
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:02 PM   #31
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Post #3. That is amazing.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:04 PM   #32
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If the industry is still pumping out 400hp V8s in 10 years I'll be thrilled. But it's hard to imagine things staying this great.
IMO, this is what will kill it. in the next 10 yrs cars will have to be averaging about 50 mpg's, and that's if they don't raise it more. that won't kill the V8, but it will drive the price way up through the roof. at that point, people will opt for the corvette, as there won't be much of a price difference. some of you don't seem to realize, one of the purposes of MPG requirements is to get cars like the V8 camaro off the road.

the V8 days are numbered, and in ten years we'll probably be discussing when the 6's will disappear. turbo'd 4's are already becoming pretty prevalent out there.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:05 PM   #33
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Post #3. That is amazing.
I don't know about amazing, but I will probably have nightmares about it.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:06 PM   #34
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I don't know the answer, but like I said I don't think we as a species are limited in the ability to come up with new ideas.

no, but we are limited by the laws of physics. an internal combustion engine will always loose 90% of it's energy produced by burning gas to heat
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:08 PM   #35
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It would be very atypical for a car company to stop making a model that they are selling the s&%t out of.
4-7k units per month is not "selling the shit out of something" to put it in perspective, Toyota sells almost 70k Camry's a month. yes, the camaro leads it's segment. but it's also one of the smallest (not every car company makes a sports/muscle car) and probably the smallest volume segment.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:12 PM   #36
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Not trying to be controversial at all, but when I was leaving the gym today and walking toward my car it just dawned on me that Chevy could discontinue the Camaro.

I think this would be an especially good idea if GM ever moves away from V8s. If they try to reinvent the car at some point maybe they should rename it. The Chevy Impala is a good example maybe...to me that thing is no Impala. What do you guys think?
Ive never been to a gym, so I can't relate to you or what you're saying.
But I have owned 5 Camaros, so I can relate to more Camaros in the future.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:15 PM   #37
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The V8 small block is efficient as ever right now and get as good or better gas mileage to comparable 6 cylinders right now.
Lets not get carried away now...
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:25 PM   #38
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no, but we are limited by the laws of physics. an internal combustion engine will always loose 90% of it's energy produced by burning gas to heat
I think you are a little off.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/atv.shtml
http://www.brighthubengineering.com/...stion-engines/
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:50 PM   #39
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Um. Factory turbos! Dual turbo on the v6...
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:51 PM   #40
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I know that there were no model year Camaro's from 2003 to 2009, but I also remember something about the Third Generation Camaro, when they had the Iroc-Z, where there were Camaro's (meaning V6's) and Iroc-Z's, but no Z28's for a while.

The reason they did that was because for a little bit more...over the price of a Z28...you could get an Iroc-Z. So people either saved money, with the V6 version, or they paid a little more for the Iroc-Z, so for a while no Z28's were really selling, so they stopped that model for a few years.

I don't know what they plan on with the current Camaro though.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:58 PM   #41
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^ Exactly. Check out the Telsa 0-60 numbers.
Made my point actually, great things are possible from gas free vehicles but the camaro and muscle cars are v8 beasts to me and seeing an ev just wouldn't be the same. I just would prefer Chevy invent a new name for the next generation of sports cars.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:59 PM   #42
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