[two_wheel_mayhem]

Will they take off or be a repeat of earlier failures? In the late 70's Ford tried it, failed, refined it greatly for an almost win (svo) even had the 2.3 putting out the same HP numbers as the V8. The car handled great but never was fast nor reliable as the V8.

I'm seeing history repeat itself as there are already ecoboost Mustangs on the streets around here. Sounding like crap and not really going anywhere fast.

The thing most guys don't seem to pick up on is you gotta launch it at like 5000 rpm to get it to even have a chance, and how long is it gonna last under those conditions?

Car is too heavy, engine is too small. They should just turbo the 3.6 then they would really have something (like decreased SS sales)

Oh what to do? It's almost like a conspiracy or something.

[SS376]

Obama and the EPA have mandated a CAFE fleet average of 54.5 mpg by 2025. It's ridiculous and only achievable by drastically shrinking displacement and massively curtailing our freedom to choose what cars we want to drive. Enjoy your V8 and get ready for a 4 cylinder future.

[JLSuperfly]

The V6ers just can't wait for these 4 bangers to hit the streets.

[fhrex]

Originally Posted by JLSuperfly

The V6ers just can't wait for these 4 bangers to hit the streets.

Not me, I'm more than happy with the performance of my 3.6! Performance and mileage....best of both worlds

[BigBlock69RS]

Those 4 cyl Eco boost motors in the new slang are stout. They love exhaust and intake mods and can get 400hp out them with those two mods and a tune. I have seen them on the track they aren't a slouch either.

I'd have one in a heartbeat if I had a long commute.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by SS376

Obama and the EPA have mandated a CAFE fleet average of 54.5 mpg by 2025. It's ridiculous and only achievable by drastically shrinking displacement and massively curtailing our freedom to choose what cars we want to drive. Enjoy your V8 and get ready for a 4 cylinder future.

They could certainly get better mileage out of the four banger with no turbo, but I guess the car would be too slow and no one would buy it. What is the fleet average MPG they are running at now?

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by BigBlock69RS

Those 4 cyl Eco boost motors in the new slang are stout. They love exhaust and intake mods and can get 400hp out them with those two mods and a tune. I have seen them on the track they aren't a slouch either.

I'd have one in a heartbeat if I had a long commute.

Those same mods would put your V8 way ahead of it. Yes I've seen videos of Ecoboost Mustangs making unbelievable passes, they all claim they are "stock"

Truth is, regardless of magazine hype you can count on seeing a lot of people running slow with them.

[GMTool]

I always think about when it's me driving with a passenger, some cargo and luggage in the trunk and back seat, 99 degrees outside with high humidity and the A/C blasting cold air while going up a hill. When they make a 4 or 6 banger that can still accelerate strongly in these conditions, I may consider one.

[KaBoom1701]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

Will they take off or be a repeat of earlier failures? In the late 70's Ford tried it, failed, refined it greatly for an almost win (svo) even had the 2.3 putting out the same HP numbers as the V8. The car handled great but never was fast nor reliable as the V8.

I'm seeing history repeat itself as there are already ecoboost Mustangs on the streets around here. Sounding like crap and not really going anywhere fast.

The thing most guys don't seem to pick up on is you gotta launch it at like 5000 rpm to get it to even have a chance, and how long is it gonna last under those conditions?

Car is too heavy, engine is too small. They should just turbo the 3.6 then they would really have something (like decreased SS sales)

Oh what to do? It's almost like a conspiracy or something.

I disagree.....

We all know that Ford sucks so I'm not defending their eco boost crap.

The 4 bangers that GM is putting out are quite good.

I drive a 4 banger Malibu and it's 2.5 liter 4 cylinder engine is not bad. At almost 200hp it cruises along nicely.

With the new CARB regulations coming the more 4 & 6 cylinder cars are out their the better. It helps offset the high HP version we all drive.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by GMTool

I always think about when it's me driving with a passenger, some cargo and luggage in the trunk and back seat, 99 degrees outside with high humidity and the A/C blasting cold air while going up a hill. When they make a 4 or 6 banger that can still accelerate strongly in these conditions, I may consider one.

Good point. I'd consider that to be normal driving. I also don't want to be required to "give my engine hell" just to get up a hill. I save those moments for when I want to feel happy...lol.

[rebelyell22]

The EcoBoost is a beast. I want one of the new Focus RS's.

[two_wheel_mayhem]

Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

I disagree.....

We all know that Ford sucks so I'm not defending their eco boost crap.

I disagree that Ford sucks, they build their cars outta the same plastic and metal that GM does, with a different texture is all.

I used the Mustang as an example because it's already out there, it's hyped as being faster than what it really is, and the Camaro is probably not gonna be quicker when it comes along.

[KaBoom1701]

Originally Posted by two_wheel_mayhem

I disagree that Ford sucks, they build their cars outta the same plastic and metal that GM does, with a different texture is all.

I used the Mustang as an example because it's already out there, it's hyped as being faster than what it really is, and the Camaro is probably not gonna be quicker when it comes along.

I would sport the GT350 or their Raptor trucks but that's about it.

Just go to any ford dealer and see how big their service department is.....enough said.

[pickwithaustin]

Not everybody buys a Camaro to exceed speed limits.

(I'd never get a 4 though - but I will say the turbo 4 in my Audi can pull away from a Camaro SS pretty fast)