Is the ZL1 really 30k more awesome then a 2SS?? - Page 2

copper3000 · 10-14-2016, 09:24 AM

YES!

Obzen · 10-14-2016, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

A ZL1 is not an LT4 powered SS. More to it than that.

Correct. It's an LT4 powered 1LE.

And yes, totally worth the money if you can afford it. I personally can't have a car note that high so until I have enough saved I'll be happy with my "piddly" 2SS.

Arizona480 · 10-14-2016, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

Turn key 650hp with full warrenty.
Of course you could throw together a nice Ride for less but murphys law says you will be spending more time fixing, tuning and swearing than driving.

Yup, just add premium fuel and enjoy the ride!

67Builder · 10-14-2016, 11:28 AM

Yes and No.
Yes to some people, No to others. It's up to you to decide what you want a car for, and which one will fit your needs the best at whatever price point.

Is the Ferrari FXX-K really worth the extra two and a half million dollars or so over a ZL1? Could be. To the right person. I love it just for the sounds it makes

I'm just short a couple million bucks.

Sven59 · 10-14-2016, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Obzen

Correct. It's an LT4 powered 1LE.

And yes, totally worth the money if you can afford it. I personally can't have a car note that high so until I have enough saved I'll be happy with my "piddly" 2SS.

It is not a LT4 powered 1LE.

GearheadSS · 10-14-2016, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven59

It is not a LT4 powered 1LE.

Definitely not. It's also not $30k more than a comparably equipped 2SS. More like $16-17k.

396ssrat · 10-14-2016, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by reeper

I think most understand that but for 25k to 30k diff in price couldn't you build up the LT1, build up the tranny and suspension and have a pile of cash left over? Plus you'd have one heck of a car.

I'm only playing Devils advocate here, plus I was bored tonight so bare with me. The fact is GM discounts the 2ss, in some cases substantially, but I don't think I see that for the ZL1. Plus the ZL1 comes with the gg tax.

In performance upgrades 25-30K can get eaten up very quickly. In the end the real deal is always worth more. No doubt the aftermarket will step up to the plate on the 6th gen SS etc but the aftermarket doesn't have to warranty stuff like the OEM's do. I hope the ZL1 lives up to it's potential and have no doubt the A-10 will stun.

Lafourche1 · 10-14-2016, 01:50 PM

I think that it just comes down to: Is any car worth $$,$$$ over X car. If 455HP or 335HP or 275HP are not enough, will 650HP be enough? Just for the record, I am so completely glad that I have my SS already. I would have probably been one of the folks chomping at the bit for the ZL1, otherwise. Maybe I just saved myself from myself.

Obzen · 10-14-2016, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sven59

It is not a LT4 powered 1LE.

It's a joke. The suspension is the same.

reeper · 10-14-2016, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lafourche1

I think that it just comes down to: Is any car worth $$,$$$ over X car. If 455HP or 335HP or 275HP are not enough, will 650HP be enough? Just for the record, I am so completely glad that I have my SS already. I would have probably been one of the folks chomping at the bit for the ZL1, otherwise. Maybe I just saved myself from myself.

Great comment right there.
Is it really 30k more? Sure if your willing to pay the premium and are happy.
Really looking forward to the ZL1 with the A10 and hoping it delivers. Planning to put one next to the SS.

txferrari · 10-14-2016, 08:15 PM

Yes!!! It is. Just like the Z06 is $30k worth more than a Z51. No way can you drive a Zl1, then be happy with a SS. Not gonna happen.

TheZman · 10-14-2016, 09:32 PM

The real question is most people that buy the ZL1 will they actually ever use the full 650 horsepower? Probably not. Most of them will be Garage and car show queens. A few guys with deep pockets will track them . But very few. If its a car can truly aford then go for it. It will be an awesome Camaro. For me 455 horsepower SS that only weights 4670 lbs or whatever is a great horsepower to weight ratio and the new SS especially with upgrades like 6 piston breaks like my car came with is already a great track car and an amazing street car. Buying a car tou cant aford will make owning it miserable no matter how great a car it is. My Camaro SS with factory options was msrp $43k i could not imagine spending any more then that let alone $30k more. Obviously if your stupid rich that doesn't matter.

SDG23 · 10-14-2016, 10:18 PM

Several years back I had a much better paying job and if I still had it, I'd probably not bat an eye at getting a ZL1. But since that's no longer the case, I just can't justify a $65K car. I probably could afford one but it would eat up way too much money unless I just kept saving for another 2 years and put up a huge down payment.

I know I wouldn't track the car and while the bragging rights are there, it's a hefty price for MOST people to drop on a car. The price difference between a 1SS and a ZL1 could get you another brand new car.

SIN R G · 10-14-2016, 11:27 PM

Yes it is worth it! And if you have to ask this question you will never understand why.

10-14-2016, 09:24 AM	#15
copper3000 Troy Drives: 2018 ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,405 View My Garage	YES! __________________

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Lafourche1 Drives: 2019 CLA 450 Mercedes Join Date: May 2016 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,107	I think that it just comes down to: Is any car worth $$,$$$ over X car. If 455HP or 335HP or 275HP are not enough, will 650HP be enough? Just for the record, I am so completely glad that I have my SS already. I would have probably been one of the folks chomping at the bit for the ZL1, otherwise. Maybe I just saved myself from myself. __________________ 2019 Lunar Blue Metallic Mercedes CLS 450 2021 C43 AMG Mercedes Coupe Metallic Cardinal Red 2014 Lincoln MKT EcoBoost (The Bus)

10-14-2016, 08:15 PM	#25
txferrari Drives: 2016 Z06/7. Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Katy Posts: 309	Yes!!! It is. Just like the Z06 is $30k worth more than a Z51. No way can you drive a Zl1, then be happy with a SS. Not gonna happen. __________________ There's only 2 people I trust. One of them is me, the others not you.

10-14-2016, 10:18 PM	#27
SDG23 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS M6 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Bluegrass State Posts: 547 View My Garage	Several years back I had a much better paying job and if I still had it, I'd probably not bat an eye at getting a ZL1. But since that's no longer the case, I just can't justify a $65K car. I probably could afford one but it would eat up way too much money unless I just kept saving for another 2 years and put up a huge down payment. I know I wouldn't track the car and while the bragging rights are there, it's a hefty price for MOST people to drop on a car. The price difference between a 1SS and a ZL1 could get you another brand new car. __________________ 2017 Camaro 1SS - Bright Yellow - 6spd

10-14-2016, 09:32 PM	#26
TheZman Drives: 2017 Camaro SS m6 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Northeast Posts: 89	The real question is most people that buy the ZL1 will they actually ever use the full 650 horsepower? Probably not. Most of them will be Garage and car show queens. A few guys with deep pockets will track them . But very few. If its a car can truly aford then go for it. It will be an awesome Camaro. For me 455 horsepower SS that only weights 4670 lbs or whatever is a great horsepower to weight ratio and the new SS especially with upgrades like 6 piston breaks like my car came with is already a great track car and an amazing street car. Buying a car tou cant aford will make owning it miserable no matter how great a car it is. My Camaro SS with factory options was msrp $43k i could not imagine spending any more then that let alone $30k more. Obviously if your stupid rich that doesn't matter.

10-14-2016, 11:27 PM	#28
SIN R G Drives: 2008 VW R32, 2011 Synergy Green 2SS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Randolph, Wisconsin Posts: 1,544	Yes it is worth it! And if you have to ask this question you will never understand why.

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