[Chris357]

Originally Posted by jamala00

Without the Gov incentives EV sales would have probably only been 1/2, if that of what they have been to date. Manufactures keep jacking the cost of ICE vehicles to subsidize EV manufacturing.

Exactly. Govt creating artificial demand by getting your neighbors to subsidize the cost of your shiny new paperweight.

And manufacturers are scamming the govt on it anyway. Was a recent article on GM authority where GM increased price of the Bolt the exact amount of the subsidy. We all know that subsidized things go up in price (healthcare, college tuition) faster than the general rate of inflation.

[Capricio]

I keep getting stuff in my newsfeed about Toyota being on the cusp of fielding solid state batteries that won't burn like a magnesium flare if they get hot or flooded, with a 750 mile range, etc... why would I sign up now? crappy range, crappy charge times, crappy power distribution where i live...

[triggerjerk]

GM: The Camaro isn't selling, let's kill it.
Also GM: Lets make everything look like a Camaro.

[IOMCamaroSS]

Originally Posted by Devstrike

Is this even official?

No. It’s just Motortrend being Motortrend.

[Keko]

^ +1 Motortrend is laughable. I will eat my shoe if there is a 2026 EV Camaro.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

the cuv's look more like a Camaro than the Camaro does

A Camaro 4X4? Yes.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

Oh, man. Imagine the name "Camaro" simply becoming the high performance trim level of the EV Blazer.



Come one, come all! Get the "First-Ever" ChEVrolet Blazer EV Camaro.

Yep! The name Camaro will be bastardized as a gimmick.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Capricio

I keep getting stuff in my newsfeed about Toyota being on the cusp of fielding solid state batteries that won't burn like a magnesium flare if they get hot or flooded, with a 750 mile range, etc... why would I sign up now? crappy range, crappy charge times, crappy power distribution where i live...

This exactly! Why buy a current EV when in 1, 2, 5, 10 years it will be sooooo much more advanced. Older EV’s will lose HUGE value quickly making them obsolete and unsalable.

Originally Posted by triggerjerk

GM: The Camaro isn't selling, let's kill it.
Also GM: Lets make everything look like a Camaro.

Lol!

[Alan47717]

EV's already depreciate faster and cost more to insure than ICE. Expensive, poor value and costly to own, what's not to like?

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Alan47717

EV's already depreciate faster and cost more to insure than ICE. Expensive, poor value and costly to own, what's not to like?

Here's an apt illustration for our enjoyment.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by ItsChristianInHD

This is just speculation.

I don’t see a new Camaro for years. I’m talking 2030. We would already know about it if it was coming back in 2026.

It takes 5-7 years to design and build a car.

I work at a company that provides vehicle forecasts. I used to do the powertrain forecast. MT probably got their information from one of our forecasts. Our forecast shows Camaro EV coming in 2026 as a 2027 MY.

One of the reasons GM is going so far down the EV path is that once you get the platform developed, developing additional vehicles off the same platform is easier with EVs than ICE. Today GM has more than a dozen vehicle platforms, about 10 - 12 different engine families, and 4 or 5 transmission families. With EVs, they have basically 4 vehicle platforms to build their entire vehicle portfolio from. Three or four electric motors and one basic drive unit that can be paired with any of the electric motors to support either FWD, RWD or AWD configurations. It will no longer take 5 years to design a vehicle from start to finish. Maybe three.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by jamala00

EV's are piling up....

Like I've said in so many other EV threads in this and other forums. The consumer will dictate if EVs are the future or not. Well, they are starting to speak with their wallets.

Sometimes true, sometimes not. When I get a chance Tuesday or Wednesday I’ll post the inventory status of several EVs. The ones that are “piling up” pretty much fit into a few categories…

• Way over-priced compared to other EVs of similar type.
• Very low range (<200 miles) compared to other EVs
• Lower trim level (typically 1-motor) versions of an EV that also offers 2-motor
• Imported and do not qualify for the IRA incentive

The ones that are flying off the lots tend to be:

• Priced in the $40 - 65k range
• 300+ driving range
• 2 or more electric motors

What we’ll find is 1-motor Nissan Ariya sit on the lots, especially the base battery size models with under 300 mile range. Meanwhile 2-motor Nissan Ariya with 300+ mile range are hard to find. We’ll find that base trim Bolt EV sits on lots but higher trim levels and Bolt EUV move pretty quickly. We’ll find that Polestar, Rivian, and Tesla move very fast. VW I.D4 not so much (short range).

There’s also an issue where for the first few months of sales, any addition of inventory looks like a humongous days supply, but it is more an issue of the math hasn’t settled out. This is actually true of all new nameplates, but since most EVs are new nameplates it shows up there. So what does that mean? Example…

Company A launches a new EV. In the first month of sales, they only sell 12. So now, the “average sales/ day is like 0.6.

Then in the second month they start filling dealership inventory. They push 2,000 units into inventory in the second month, and sales come in at 200. So average sales/day is now 5.3 (212 / 40) and the inventory is 340 days of inventory (1,800 / 5.3).

The next couple months they sell 2,400 and add another 2,000 to inventory. Their average sales per day is now 2,612 / 80 = 32.65. And their days inventory is 1,400/32.65 = 43 days inventory.

[Need4Camaro]

I would be more interested if they kept it a 2 door but a 4 door is a big nono. That and it doesn't deserve the Camaro title. Just kill the Camaro and call it a Malibu.

I can't wait for all these EV's to land in everyones garage and we suddenly realize our power infrastructure is light-years behind what is necessary to power an entire country full of them. That and lets not kid ourselves, the energy grid is only 30% efficient, and over 85% fueled with fossil fuels.

[Wyzz Kydd]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

I would be more interested if they kept it a 2 door but a 4 door is a big nono. That and it doesn't deserve the Camaro title. Just kill the Camaro and call it a Malibu.

I can't wait for all these EV's to land in everyones garage and we suddenly realize our power infrastructure is light-years behind what is necessary to power an entire country full of them. That and lets not kid ourselves, the energy grid is only 30% efficient, and over 85% fueled with fossil fuels.

I agree. They should build whatever they want but do they have to bastardize iconic name plates too?

We’re at five cars already, so we have lots of driving options. An F150 Lightning in conjunction with solar panels and three PowerWalls would be a nice sixth vehicle IF it charged fully in five minutes IF it had a range of at least 350 miles even in adverse conditions and IF it could haul a medium sized RV without cutting 2/3rds of range.

Unfortunately not one of those IFs is true, so I prefer an F series with a diesel for my next vehicle.