[90503]

Maybe it's common knowledge but I can't help but think that with all the comparisons and discussions of Camaro and it's relationship to Corvette that perhaps now it's time to shift it more to Camaro as the little brother of Cadillac?

...Same "platform"....same powerplants? especially perhaps the 4 and 6 cylinders?....same handling?.....track comparisons and times?...

Just thinking this new gen will have more in common with Cadillac than Corvette...

...and for clues about the Camaro maybe Cadillac's builds and options are more of a key....

....Or more of a mix of all three??....

[DenverTaco07]

I would think Mixture of all three.

of the little i think i know, common points in all three:

LT1 / LT4
MRC
Transmissions I would guess go along with the engine.
All Bad A$$ cars

Common CTS-V to Camaro

Alpha Platform

I'm sure some of the knowledgeable folks can chime in.

but yeah, i think all three sharing major components.

[rayhawk]

Well the CTS seems like it is a good bit larger than the upcoming Camaro, so comparisons with the ATS are probably more appropriate. Since the ATS isn't available with the LT1 or the LT4, whereas the Camaro almost certainly will be, this makes them pretty different in terms of character. Of course, the 2.0 turbo and the 3.6L DI motors will be shared, so the more common versions of both are going to be pretty similar mechanically. I am very curious to see comparisons between the ATS-V and the Camaro 1LE.

[SPCBA]

I honestly have not read about any version of cts having same power plant as an expected camaro, until we hear about a lt4 (supercharged) in a Camaro. The new alpha is variable in size, ats smaller and I really hope the cts is bigger it just looks huge.

Ats is a "small" car for a different market. Ats v sounds cool but I'm not sure how many Camaro enthusiasts want the drive train. The out going ats seems nimble, something the outgoing Camaro is not, atleast not until a few simple mods. But to be frank I can't remember how my heavy chevy performed turning left and right without mods so I am a bad judge.
Can't imagine a Camaro competing with caddy in terms of "luxary" interior for whatever that word means anymore.
Some similarities in the alpha platform but I hope not to much for the size issue i stated earlier, I would agree with you maybe more of a all three (caddies, Camaro and vette) have similarities while still being different beasts. vette has the easy comparisons due to Camaro getting the drivetrains after it, handling i would still expect the Camaro being behind a smaller ats and just better overall vette

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by SPCBA

I honestly have not read about any version of cts having same power plant as an expected camaro, until we hear about a lt4 (supercharged) in a Camaro. The new alpha is variable in size, ats smaller and I really hope the cts is bigger it just looks huge.

Admittedly, we haven't seen official engine choices for Camaro, but everything i've read points to LT1 / LT4

plus, seeing how the outgoing CTS-V and outgoing Camaro, both share the LSA...one could make a leap i suppose.

[Inferno2SS]

I am really curious to see if the Camaro gets the same engine as the ATS-V. The 3.6L v6 with a twin turbo producing 450 HP and 440 lbs of torque. On the lighter Alpha platform it seems like a good fit for the 2016 Camaro.

[SuperSound]

The ATS has been tailored to have a 50/50 weight distribution. I don't expect to see that on the Camaro, so they will not likely feel the same driving. I believe we should expect to see similar straight line performance in terms of the 2.0T and V6. It's too bad the 2015 ATS didn't get the 8 speed auto, since that would give us a good idea what to expect. I would expect the features/options to look more like the Corvette than the ATS.

[SPCBA]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

The ATS has been tailored to have a 50/50 weight distribution. I don't expect to see that on the Camaro, so they will not likely feel the same driving. I believe we should expect to see similar straight line performance in terms of the 2.0T and V6. It's too bad the 2015 ATS didn't get the 8 speed auto, since that would give us a good idea what to expect. I would expect the features/options to look more like the Corvette than the ATS.

The hump couldn't fit it if I recall correctly. I wouldn't want a twin turbo v6 at the same performance of the lt1 if I could avoid it.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by SPCBA

The hump couldn't fit it if I recall correctly. I wouldn't want a twin turbo v6 at the same performance of the lt1 if I could avoid it.

Is there still talk about the ATS getting the 8spd? Last I checked they were still planning it so wonder how they will remedy the issue.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

The ATS has been tailored to have a 50/50 weight distribution. I don't expect to see that on the Camaro, so they will not likely feel the same driving. I believe we should expect to see similar straight line performance in terms of the 2.0T and V6. It's too bad the 2015 ATS didn't get the 8 speed auto, since that would give us a good idea what to expect. I would expect the features/options to look more like the Corvette than the ATS.

Why?

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Why?

Why what exactly?

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Why what exactly?

Why would the weight distribution not be 50/50?

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Why would the weight distribution not be 50/50?

The LT1 is the biggest reason. V8 power means beefing up various parts throughout the car. Caddy spent a lot of effort getting the 50/50 in the ATS, do not think Chevy will be as concerned with it. It should be inline with the current 5th gen's distribution.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

The LT1 is the biggest reason. V8 power means beefing up various parts throughout the car. Caddy spent a lot of effort getting the 50/50 in the ATS, do not think Chevy will be as concerned with it. It should be inline with the current 5th gen's distribution.

In line with the current Camaro would be a HUGE fail on TEAM Camaro. This is essentially the same group of engineers that did the Z/28. The 6th Gen SS should be close in handling to the 5th Gen Z/28. The Z version of the 6th Gen should eat a Z/28 before running down V series luxury cars.

I am not cutting them any slack. They learned an enormous amount from the 10s to the 15s. No one in thee Camaro community should expect anything less than a quantum leap forward in all aspects of design, engine ring and performance. Having written that, I am sure that Al and TEAM Camaro have thee brand-x bench marks, including Cadillac and Corvette on a wall and plan to beat them all.