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Old 02-19-2018, 10:06 PM   #1
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MRC software upgrade for ZL1?

http://www.gm.com/mol/m-2017-oct-sem...-corvette.html

Will team Camaro offer this?
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:08 PM   #2
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Ask Al question this round +1
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:10 PM   #3
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This needs to be answered by Al.
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:58 PM   #4
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It’s for 16 and older vettes which makes me think the zl1 already has this tuning. I could be wrong though.
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Old 02-20-2018, 07:10 AM   #5
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Ask Al won't allow discussion on potential future offerings - nor would GM allow Al to respond to something that isn't already public knowledge.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:34 AM   #6
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RideTech already offers programming for the C7 Z06 platform, not sure where they are on a ZL1; however, it is already public knowledge that GM is working on offering MRC tuning for the ZL1 drag program. It's not available yet, but once that door is open, they will surely start talking more. I wouldn't hesitate to push all of this with Al because the squeaky wheel gets the grease and the more interest we show as a community for GM aftermarket, the more they will strive to fulfill it. If they don't think the demand is there, I can ASSURE you that the bean counters inside GM will often try to deter these types of programs for the obvious reasons with warranties being taxed, concerns on how to implement the products safely into the open market, and lastly how to protect themselves from liability if someone accepts these modifications and then voids the warranty and causes harm. All of this has deterred them to date despite Ford having a viable aftermarket parts platform.

So, I urge you guys to PUSH hard for this!

The ZL1 Drag Program is already running 10.0s at 140mph over and over with just a 9% upper, intake, PCM, TCM, eLSD, MRC tuning, and a set of 16" slicks!

If you build it, we will buy
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:57 AM   #7
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Ask Al won't allow discussion on potential future offerings - nor would GM allow Al to respond to something that isn't already public knowledge.
That sounds good and all, but He’s teased future offerings before and most of the Ask Al questions to this point have offered insight that has yet to be released to the public. Where else could we have seen the data logs from the factory official 0-60 and quarter mile times? Where can we see an explanation of how the launch control system ACTUALLY works in the PCM (other than the Ask Al section)?
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:22 PM   #8
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That sounds good and all, but He’s teased future offerings before and most of the Ask Al questions to this point have offered insight that has yet to be released to the public. Where else could we have seen the data logs from the factory official 0-60 and quarter mile times? Where can we see an explanation of how the launch control system ACTUALLY works in the PCM (other than the Ask Al section)?
I said future offerings that are not public knowledge. I didn't say "anything" that isn't also public knowledge. Details.
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:15 AM   #9
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Al answered this on a FB group called "ZL1 Exclusive" and the answer was...

Al Oppenheiser: "Michael is correct. There is no need for the Camaro
ZL1 to have to offer a tuning upgrade. It was tuned for optimal track performance by the best team of engineers in the business."

Then later... someone said "their buddy says otherwise" and Al said:

Al Oppenheiser: "Teddy W. so who are you going to believe?��"

I think if there was something planned, he would stay mute on the subject. Nothing is coming from GM and it doesn't seem like Al or their team thinks there needs to be anything.

I know most people track their ZL1 1LE cars and a small minority (per cars sold) track their ZL1 like I do but I will say the car is setup right for the track. It may benefit from a stickier tire, more aggressive brake compound and camber plates...but out of the box, the "base" ZL1 is pretty incredible as shown on Lightening Lap.
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:19 PM   #10
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^^^ Makes sense. From what I understand the 2018 and newer C7's will already come with the upgraded calibration and this is most beneficial to the earlier years. There is a great explanation in the Ask Tadge section of the Corvette forum.
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Old 02-21-2018, 01:17 PM   #11
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DSC Sport offers an aftermarket programmable magnetic ride suspension controller for the ZL1 Camaro: http://www.dscsport.com/2017/08/11/t...-game-changer/
I have the same unit installed on my C7 Z06 and the difference is very pronounced.
ZL1 1LE cars do not have magnetic ride suspension, instead they have Multimatic non-adjustable spool valve shocks which were developed for F1 cars originally.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:40 PM   #12
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DSC Sport offers an aftermarket programmable magnetic ride suspension controller for the ZL1 Camaro: http://www.dscsport.com/2017/08/11/t...-game-changer/
I have the same unit installed on my C7 Z06 and the difference is very pronounced.
ZL1 1LE cars do not have magnetic ride suspension, instead they have Multimatic non-adjustable spool valve shocks which were developed for F1 cars originally.
I have looked at that tool...but my question would be...who would you have tune the car? What else would you tune it with? Higher spring rate? I myself am no engineer, I'd be hacking away at changes unless DCS has pre configured options for the ZL1 like..

"ZL1 with Eibach Pro kit and Slicks"
"ZL1 with Eibach Pro kit and R-compound tires"
"ZL1 with Eibach Pro kit, 1LE sway bar, camber plates, Slicks"

How do you do it on a C7Z? Trial and error? Seems like the only way and I'm sure the Team Camaro engineers have far more track tuning capability than me.

Sounds like a good idea.
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