Letting a performance shop use my car to make a cold air intake

bybcous · 01-02-2016, 11:06 AM

Im not going to name the brand but i found out a pretty big brand is down the the street from me. My question is after they use my car for the mock up, and then tune it for there cold air intake they are going to return it to stock. Will there be a way for gm to notice down the line that my car has ever been tuned? Im gonna keep the cold air intake and install it at a later date down the line.

The are also going to mock a oil separator up.

SuperSound · 01-02-2016, 11:09 AM

Yes. There's a write counter on the PCM from my understanding. They will see the PCM has been modified and your service record will indicate there's been no changes.

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Number 3 · 01-02-2016, 11:33 AM

SuperSound is correct. You will have allowed them to void your powertrain warranty. Not worth it unless you were already planning to have your car recalibrated. And in that case, you might as well leave it.

My recommendation? Not worth it unless you were going down that road anyway.

90503 · 01-02-2016, 12:18 PM

Are you sure they will be adding a tune? Sounds unlikely for just a cold air intake...Most just swap out with the stock and no tune is needed.

They need your car to adjust their design so it doesn't throw a code with the stock tune...and they will make before and after dyno pulls to show a hp improvement...

I would be concerned more with how hard they plan on revving it prior to being broken in...

If they told you they will be messing with the actual tune, I'd have second thoughts about letting them have it...

Number 3 · 01-02-2016, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90503

Are you sure they will be adding a tune? Sounds unlikely for just a cold air intake...Most just swap out with the stock and no tune is needed.

They need your car to adjust their design so it doesn't throw a code with the stock tune...and they will make before and after dyno pulls to show a hp improvement...

I would be concerned more with how hard they plan on revving it prior to being broken in...

If they told you they will be messing with the actual tune, I'd have second thoughts about letting them have it...

Agreed!

If they are "tuning" the intake shape, radii, attachment scheme, then that's a different matter.

If they touch any control module on the car and re calibrate......don't do it.

SPCBA · 01-02-2016, 01:54 PM

What are you getting out of the deal?

Drags1998 · 01-02-2016, 02:12 PM

The only thing He's getting is SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!, Sorry, I couldn't help Myself, Why would you "lend'someone your New car for nothing?

mikeyg36 · 01-02-2016, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drags1998

The only thing He's getting is SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!, Sorry, I couldn't help Myself, Why would you "lend'someone your New car for nothing?

You get a free $400+ intake when they're done?

KaBoom1701 · 01-02-2016, 03:34 PM

Seems you get screwed unless you get a free Cold Air Intake and some extra "goodies"......IMHO

DenverTaco07 · 01-02-2016, 04:32 PM

I wouldn't do it for less than $2000 and a free CAI and tune.

laynlo15 · 01-02-2016, 07:54 PM

First of all is a reputable shop? I'd worry less about the warranty as long as they don't change the tune. Also, do you know your dealer and their service department and if so you can probably not worry about the warranty unless you have a engine failure and generally a CAI is not going to cause any issues. I had warranty work done on my supercharged g8gt at my local dealership and didn't have an issue, I also had purchased probably 30 vehicles from them and they knew I didn't abuse the car and it was nothing related to the supercharger. GM is also selling their own CAI which will probably similar to the one they are building for you. You probably won't need a tune, I've done a bunch of different CAI's for my G8, my truck, the LSX wagon I built, my corvettes and most needed no additional tuning. As one member said before the computer can make adjustments for the additional air the Maf will encounter as it passes thur the intake tube. Obviously its up to you, I'll add one to my 16 as I did my 15. Just have fun and enjoy your ride. You may have a hard ass dealer that hates HYPO cars or you may have a dealer that loves them, remember they get paid for your warranty work. BY no means am I telling you what to do, I think you should get a CIA for free if they are making money off your car. Just be careful and make sure they do it right.

Tr6 · 01-05-2016, 11:34 AM

The place his car is at is a very reputable shop. They haven't given an update other than the intake is already out of the 3D printer yet. Did they update you yet Bybcous?

01-02-2016, 11:06 AM	#1
bybcous Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue 1SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: hampton roads Posts: 2,763	Letting a performance shop use my car to make a cold air intake Im not going to name the brand but i found out a pretty big brand is down the the street from me. My question is after they use my car for the mock up, and then tune it for there cold air intake they are going to return it to stock. Will there be a way for gm to notice down the line that my car has ever been tuned? Im gonna keep the cold air intake and install it at a later date down the line. The are also going to mock a oil separator up. __________________ 1ss/Auto-Hyper Blue acs carbon flash spoiler, bmr springs, gm clear tails. Texas speed cam, 223/227 .635/.635 116 LSA, Kooks Long Tube Headers with green cats, MSD Atomic Air Force Intake, CAI Cold Air Intake, QTP cutouts. 503 hp Best so far 11.5 at 123 with a 1.83 60ft. BMR lower and upper trailing arms and upper control arms,E85 DELIVERED 12/29/15 http://youtube.com/bybcous " no talking only racing on my youtube"

01-02-2016, 11:09 AM	#2
SuperSound Drives: '17 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 5,063 View My Garage	Yes. There's a write counter on the PCM from my understanding. They will see the PCM has been modified and your service record will indicate there's been no changes. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk __________________ Current: '17 2SS Hyper Blue, A8, MRC, NPP Past: '99 SS Camaro A4, '73 Camaro 383 A3 "Voices in your head are not considered insider information." 3800 Status - 6/16/16 (Built!) 6000 status - 6/29/16 (Delivered!)

01-02-2016, 11:33 AM	#3
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,183 View My Garage	SuperSound is correct. You will have allowed them to void your powertrain warranty. Not worth it unless you were already planning to have your car recalibrated. And in that case, you might as well leave it. My recommendation? Not worth it unless you were going down that road anyway. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

01-02-2016, 01:54 PM	#6
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01-02-2016, 03:34 PM	#9
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	Seems you get screwed unless you get a free Cold Air Intake and some extra "goodies"......IMHO __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

01-02-2016, 12:18 PM	#4
90503 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Torrance Posts: 14,438	Are you sure they will be adding a tune? Sounds unlikely for just a cold air intake...Most just swap out with the stock and no tune is needed. They need your car to adjust their design so it doesn't throw a code with the stock tune...and they will make before and after dyno pulls to show a hp improvement... I would be concerned more with how hard they plan on revving it prior to being broken in... If they told you they will be messing with the actual tune, I'd have second thoughts about letting them have it...

01-02-2016, 02:12 PM	#7
Drags1998 Drives: 15 SilveradoLTZ,162SSVert BlazerRS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Minot,Maine Posts: 644	The only thing He's getting is SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!, Sorry, I couldn't help Myself, Why would you "lend'someone your New car for nothing?

01-02-2016, 04:32 PM	#10
DenverTaco07 Drives: 2017 SS 1LE, 2017 Volt, 2013 Pilot Join Date: May 2014 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,274	I wouldn't do it for less than $2000 and a free CAI and tune. __________________ 2017 SS 1LE \| HBM \| Vortech V3-Si supercharger (620RWHP and 575ft lbs) \| PDR \| Black Bowties \| Illuminated Front Black Bowtie \| Illuminated Door Sills \| Smoked Tails \| vented seats mod

01-02-2016, 07:54 PM	#11
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	First of all is a reputable shop? I'd worry less about the warranty as long as they don't change the tune. Also, do you know your dealer and their service department and if so you can probably not worry about the warranty unless you have a engine failure and generally a CAI is not going to cause any issues. I had warranty work done on my supercharged g8gt at my local dealership and didn't have an issue, I also had purchased probably 30 vehicles from them and they knew I didn't abuse the car and it was nothing related to the supercharger. GM is also selling their own CAI which will probably similar to the one they are building for you. You probably won't need a tune, I've done a bunch of different CAI's for my G8, my truck, the LSX wagon I built, my corvettes and most needed no additional tuning. As one member said before the computer can make adjustments for the additional air the Maf will encounter as it passes thur the intake tube. Obviously its up to you, I'll add one to my 16 as I did my 15. Just have fun and enjoy your ride. You may have a hard ass dealer that hates HYPO cars or you may have a dealer that loves them, remember they get paid for your warranty work. BY no means am I telling you what to do, I think you should get a CIA for free if they are making money off your car. Just be careful and make sure they do it right. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

01-05-2016, 11:34 AM	#12
Tr6 The Dogfather Drives: #1 off the line for a customer. '16 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Andover, KS Posts: 2,621	The place his car is at is a very reputable shop. They haven't given an update other than the intake is already out of the 3D printer yet. Did they update you yet Bybcous? __________________ 2SS, Garnet Red with Adrenalin red, NPP, MRC M6 coupe #33 off the line #1 order for Customer. Build thread HERE! Story of my delivery HERE!

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