09-23-2016, 09:31 PM | #1 |
Drives: 14 ss camaro summit white Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: bay area
Posts: 463
|
What lifters are u guys when u guys delete the dod/afm
Im thinkin later down the road to keep vvt and delete the afm etc.. what lifters are u guys running? I dont want to run the ls6 lifters because thats what failed on my 408 couple months ago and thus causing my trans am to be on hold for a bit.
Morels? Comps?
__________________
2014 ss camaro
Stainless works long tubes , rotofab cai , vararam wedge , muffler delete,cat delete ,resonator delete , x pipe 2019 sierra duramax 2500 all terrain x 2001 trans am Lsx 408 ci rebuild in progress(dead project) 1967 camaro Sbc 327. |
09-24-2016, 12:24 AM | #2 |
Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: WNY
Posts: 7,070
|
ill never buy a comp product again. everything iv bought from comp was bad when i got it or failed soon after. Morels or Johnson.
__________________
real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1
|
09-24-2016, 08:34 AM | #3 |
Drives: Black L99 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 1,862
|
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385577
LS7 lifters with the valley pan are what all the pros use. Hammdo really went above and beyond with his build, if there's ever the slightest reference point or bit of info you need, he's got it covered through and through. |
09-24-2016, 08:59 AM | #4 | |
Drives: 14 ss camaro summit white Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: bay area
Posts: 463
|
Quote:
__________________
2014 ss camaro
Stainless works long tubes , rotofab cai , vararam wedge , muffler delete,cat delete ,resonator delete , x pipe 2019 sierra duramax 2500 all terrain x 2001 trans am Lsx 408 ci rebuild in progress(dead project) 1967 camaro Sbc 327. |
|
09-24-2016, 09:19 AM | #5 |
Fast Cars and Old Guitars
Drives: 2015 2SS RS (L99, baby!) Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: N. CA
Posts: 3,974
|
If you were simply doing an AFM delete (no blower,etc.) would stock LS3 lifters work fine? (assuming you wanted to get rid of the afm lifters altogether)
__________________
“I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx
|
09-24-2016, 10:20 AM | #6 |
One Slow Automatic
Drives: 2017 GS 2010 CAMARO SS Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NC NJ NY DMV THE BAYAREA
Posts: 877
|
I used Johnson lifters but Morel are great too!
__________________
650HP 2010 CAMARO SS 710HP 2017 GRAND SPORT
|
09-24-2016, 10:56 AM | #7 | |
Drives: Black L99 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 1,862
|
Quote:
Yeah you're gonna get smoked by some VVT's out there, but I just hate seeing people say they've had lifters fail in these L99's. I'd only have two well trusted vendors on this site vvt cam my car. GPI Rhino and Justicepete from Virginia |
|
09-24-2016, 12:32 PM | #8 |
Drives: 14 ss camaro summit white Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: bay area
Posts: 463
|
Im still debating ... this aint gonna be a a all out performer just want a nice unmpph to my daily driver..
__________________
2014 ss camaro
Stainless works long tubes , rotofab cai , vararam wedge , muffler delete,cat delete ,resonator delete , x pipe 2019 sierra duramax 2500 all terrain x 2001 trans am Lsx 408 ci rebuild in progress(dead project) 1967 camaro Sbc 327. |
09-24-2016, 01:05 PM | #9 |
Drives: 2SS/RS L99 BLACK Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Franklin , MA
Posts: 6,696
|
I gave up with hydraulics and went Morel solids
|
09-24-2016, 01:32 PM | #10 | |
Drives: Black L99 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 1,862
|
Quote:
I'll probably get flamed for this but I feel like getting rid of those lifters is just one less thing to worry about. There's plenty of people here who have had their cams run with VVT and lifters without a single problem, and there's those who haven't. Cams are definitely you gotta pay to play kind of thing, everything from the installation, all the way through to the tune and then the oil / break-in process are all critical to the cam's longevity. So if you're looking for a DD with more UMPH... get a smaller cam that isn't so aggressive VVT or not. Then work your way up from there. |
|
09-24-2016, 02:58 PM | #11 |
Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 5,712
|
Ls3/7 lifters are actually pretty damn good. The failure rate is very low. I had one fail, but put a new set in and would again if needed.
The johnsons are nice, but more picky on preload. For a basic <1000rwhp setup just about anything works. Not a fan of the comps at all. Failed ls7 lifters I've seen are from poor valvetrain/cam and skipping the rollers on the cam. Quick way to wipe out a lifter.
__________________
Nick
Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp |
09-25-2016, 10:48 AM | #12 |
Master ASE, GM, LSX Tech.
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,034
|
I run the Johnson 2110 Lifters in all the cam jobs at my shop.
http://www.briantooleyracing.com/joh...ters-2110.html
__________________
2010 2SSRS A6, Custom Pat G. Cam, WCCH Cylinder Heads, Kooks Headers/Exhaust, BTR Valvetrain, Fluidampr 25% UDP, All Engine ARP bolts, Flex-a-lite radiator/Trans cooler, Yank converter, PFADT Suspension, ADM Race Intake/Scoop, Torq tow hook, CFD auto shifter, Dynojet AFR gauge, Aeroforce scan gauge, Brake Performance rotors/pads
Prothane bushings, ZL1 wheels, spoiler, Z/28 wickerbill, 1LE Aero/Suspension Package, Anderson Composites COPO Carbon Fiber Hood, LED lighting, Elite Catch Can, Improved Racing oil pan baffle, crank scraper, windage tray 480 RWHP 452 RWTQ + Nitrous Express 150 Shot |
09-25-2016, 11:52 PM | #13 | |
Drives: Black L99 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 1,862
|
Quote:
I'm guessing these are just about the best things out there for us 5th gen owners then right? So if I were to cam my L99... I want these lifters? |
|
09-25-2016, 11:57 PM | #14 |
Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Vance Alabama
Posts: 8,019
|
LS3 and LS7 are the same.
__________________
Retired wanna be cylinder head porter
2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X |
|
|
|
|