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camarosspower · 06-23-2016, 11:42 PM

I was thinking about a 416. Will be with a slptvs2300. Or should just forge stock 376?

UNRIVALED SS · 06-24-2016, 05:55 AM

I would stay with a 376 configuration. It's not what I did but it's what I will do next time. It will be happier at high RPM and easier to make boost on with the 2300. It will make boost on a 416 or 427 but it takes more effort.

camarosspower · 06-24-2016, 09:03 AM

Not sure yet but I might go tt but it won't be for a while. Right now the Tvs is what I'm stuck with. So most people build 416 for all motor?

Bildo · 06-24-2016, 01:31 PM

I dunno, I am selling the LS3 long block out of my 2012 with 13k on it. Putting in an ERL Superdeck 6. The TVS is a tiny blower for anything much larger than 376. I am putting a F1A on the 427 and thats still not enough blower.

1985airborne · 06-24-2016, 02:35 PM

forge the 376!

avido · 06-24-2016, 03:11 PM

why not buying a b15 lsx?

JusticePete · 06-24-2016, 03:38 PM

How crazy do you want to go?

RWHP???

camarosspower · 06-24-2016, 04:04 PM

I would like to be pretty crazy but can't at the moment. Maybe 900whp+ through the th400. Also a thought that crossed my mind is sell the SLP and stay all motor until I can afford tt kit or procharger

JusticePete · 06-24-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by camarosspower

I would like to be pretty crazy but can't at the moment. Maybe 900whp+ through the th400. Also a thought that crossed my mind is sell the SLP and stay all motor until I can afford tt kit or procharger

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CobraR · 06-24-2016, 06:36 PM

Here is my story, learn from it....lol

I had a forged 376 with my TVS, made 736rw with a 3.2 pulley and still had a 3.0 pulley to use.

Friend bought a ERL 427 and ended up changing his mind. So I bought it, bought bigger heads, new cam ect. Obviously not a cheap build. I put the 3.0 pulley on it, put a ported snout on the blower, Made a 5" air intake for it, added a water/Ice tank.

I made 761rw....Didnt even pick up 30hp. The blower can not keep up. I made 17psi and carried through the rpm range with the 376. On this engine, it starts at 17 and drops to 13 by the end of the pull.

I knew the blower would really limit the car, but didnt realize it would be that much.

After buying this ERL engine and after talking with more people, its not worth it. They have issues. I would highly recommend looking at other options.

camarosspower · 06-24-2016, 07:04 PM

Thank you sir. This is why I'm thinking of selling the blower to help out with the 416 then once I'm settled get a procharger or agp kit and turn up the boost

bayarea408 · 06-24-2016, 07:30 PM

Flip the tvs add some more cash go turbo, ecs, or whipple. I think all 3 of those options will produce 900 or more.

1KillerSS · 06-24-2016, 08:13 PM

Imo 376 is fine for a turbo build. But lots of people go bigger.

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10aSSee D · 06-24-2016, 08:22 PM

417 and put the AGP kit on it and make 1,000hp easy.

06-23-2016, 11:42 PM	#1
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Looking for a new motor I was thinking about a 416. Will be with a slptvs2300. Or should just forge stock 376?

06-24-2016, 02:35 PM	#5
1985airborne One Slow Automatic Drives: 2017 GS 2010 CAMARO SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NC NJ NY DMV THE BAYAREA Posts: 877	forge the 376! __________________ 650HP 2010 CAMARO SS 710HP 2017 GRAND SPORT

06-24-2016, 03:11 PM	#6
avido Drives: camaro ss\rs Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Italia Posts: 755	why not buying a b15 lsx? __________________ 2014 camaro SS Whipple powered ,3.750 pulley,ID850, CAI,Flowmaster American Thunder exhaust,MGW racing shifter,Bo White ported tb,MightyMouse Catch Can,Vitesse throttle controller,GM 3.91 rear end, Dynatech longtube haders, BTR Pd cam,Fluidampr stock pulley,ZL1 fuel pump and ADM fpcm, Phastek scoop and fluid thank relocation Bmr Motor mount . Tuned by Mastuning

06-24-2016, 08:13 PM	#13
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	Imo 376 is fine for a turbo build. But lots of people go bigger. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

06-24-2016, 08:22 PM	#14
10aSSee D Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 2,562	417 and put the AGP kit on it and make 1,000hp easy. __________________ MODS: ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq

06-24-2016, 05:55 AM	#2
UNRIVALED SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: El Paso Posts: 704 View My Garage	I would stay with a 376 configuration. It's not what I did but it's what I will do next time. It will be happier at high RPM and easier to make boost on with the 2300. It will make boost on a 416 or 427 but it takes more effort.

06-24-2016, 09:03 AM	#3
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Not sure yet but I might go tt but it won't be for a while. Right now the Tvs is what I'm stuck with. So most people build 416 for all motor?

06-24-2016, 01:31 PM	#4
Bildo Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 1,677	I dunno, I am selling the LS3 long block out of my 2012 with 13k on it. Putting in an ERL Superdeck 6. The TVS is a tiny blower for anything much larger than 376. I am putting a F1A on the 427 and thats still not enough blower.

06-24-2016, 03:38 PM	#7
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	How crazy do you want to go? RWHP???

06-24-2016, 04:04 PM	#8
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	I would like to be pretty crazy but can't at the moment. Maybe 900whp+ through the th400. Also a thought that crossed my mind is sell the SLP and stay all motor until I can afford tt kit or procharger

06-24-2016, 06:36 PM	#10
CobraR Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Baltimore Posts: 124	Here is my story, learn from it....lol I had a forged 376 with my TVS, made 736rw with a 3.2 pulley and still had a 3.0 pulley to use. Friend bought a ERL 427 and ended up changing his mind. So I bought it, bought bigger heads, new cam ect. Obviously not a cheap build. I put the 3.0 pulley on it, put a ported snout on the blower, Made a 5" air intake for it, added a water/Ice tank. I made 761rw....Didnt even pick up 30hp. The blower can not keep up. I made 17psi and carried through the rpm range with the 376. On this engine, it starts at 17 and drops to 13 by the end of the pull. I knew the blower would really limit the car, but didnt realize it would be that much. After buying this ERL engine and after talking with more people, its not worth it. They have issues. I would highly recommend looking at other options.

06-24-2016, 07:04 PM	#11
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Thank you sir. This is why I'm thinking of selling the blower to help out with the 416 then once I'm settled get a procharger or agp kit and turn up the boost

06-24-2016, 07:30 PM	#12
bayarea408 Drives: T Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: CA Posts: 803	Flip the tvs add some more cash go turbo, ecs, or whipple. I think all 3 of those options will produce 900 or more.