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Tampa Tuning · 12-02-2014, 09:17 AM

Whatever intake you get, buy one with a cold air scoop. If you dont, your going tobe breathing in engine bay temperture air which can reduce the amount of timing your vehicle accepts.

Im a vararam fan if they make it for your vehicle

Rocky1974 · 12-02-2014, 10:13 AM

Cold Air Inductions with an optional scoop.
ADM, Jannetty, Apex and others, make scoops. A K&N will give you only about half the power gains of this set up.

The Vararams don't dyno well, but a lot of people swear by them and claim that they only perform at speed. The CAI w/scoop setup performs well on the dyno, as well as at speed.

SGOS252382 · 12-02-2014, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocky1974

Cold Air Inductions with an optional scoop.
ADM, Jannetty, Apex and others, make scoops. A K&N will give you only about half the power gains of this set up.

The Vararams don't dyno well, but a lot of people swear by them and claim that they only perform at speed. The CAI w/scoop setup performs well on the dyno, as well as at speed.

Yeah, the Vararam intake (OTR - models) makes excellent power. On a dyno, they're usually no better than average.
I had a different brand (popular model) a while back. When I switched over to the tune only Vararam, my tuner told me he had to adjust my tune for the additional airflow with the Vararam. We would go out and street tune the car up to XXX speeds.

Kelly@PCMofNC · 12-02-2014, 10:41 AM

Rotofab or CAI! We have both on sale right now (last day of our Thanksgiving sale!)

ntmad8tr · 12-02-2014, 11:09 AM

I have had no issues with my Cold Air Inc. easy install and looks great.
Right after install:

After painting it white and adding my painted engine cover, strut tower brace, strut caps and wiring harness cover:

45thCAMARO 2SS/RS · 12-02-2014, 11:10 AM

CAI or Roto- Fab... Good vendors to buy from are JDP Motorsport- PCM NC - Apex, I have either bought from them or been helped by them... Goodluck

Tampa Tuning · 12-02-2014, 12:53 PM

This is correct. I tell that to folks all the time. You can switch from intake to intake and not worry about the tune, but if you switch to the Vararam, please come back to me so I can make sure it doesnt lean out because it will at speed.

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Originally Posted by SGOS252382

Yeah, the Vararam intake (OTR - models) makes excellent power. On a dyno, they're usually no better than average.
I had a different brand (popular model) a while back. When I switched over to the tune only Vararam, my tuner told me he had to adjust my tune for the additional airflow with the Vararam. We would go out and street tune the car up to XXX speeds.

vicnkathy · 12-02-2014, 01:38 PM

Pick what you like and can afford. There's a lot of K&N hate on here and a lot of CAI nut swingers. There may be a 2-3 hp difference between ANY of them. Funny thing is if you look at the Z28 intake it's made by K&N except for a dry flow filter. And it is more then good enough for that engine. I have seen some used K&N's go for about $125 and were like brand new because of all the hate. The CAI is a $400 unit and uses shrink wrap to keep the air breather in place!! Not very well thought out imho. But that's my opinion. I will say on a dyno session I say a 11hp and 13ft/lb difference on a friends 13SS hood closed with a K&N system over stock. Bone stock car with 1,300 miles on it. LS3.

CamaroCracka · 12-02-2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vicnkathy

...and a lot of CAI nut swingers.

29er · 12-03-2014, 06:03 PM

got K&N here ,and absolutly no regrets, no check engine at all. bone stock..2014 1LE

camarosspower · 12-03-2014, 06:11 PM

I've had the k&n for over 4 years now. No complaints. I've never dyno'd my car to see any results but I doubt there is a huge difference in HP gains. I'd save the extra money and also get a ported tb. I got mine from bo. This combination has been great for me so far

rontammy0 · 12-04-2014, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vicnkathy

Pick what you like and can afford. There's a lot of K&N hate on here and a lot of CAI nut swingers. There may be a 2-3 hp difference between ANY of them. Funny thing is if you look at the Z28 intake it's made by K&N except for a dry flow filter. And it is more then good enough for that engine. I have seen some used K&N's go for about $125 and were like brand new because of all the hate. The CAI is a $400 unit and uses shrink wrap to keep the air breather in place!! Not very well thought out imho. But that's my opinion. I will say on a dyno session I say a 11hp and 13ft/lb difference on a friends 13SS hood closed with a K&N system over stock. Bone stock car with 1,300 miles on it. LS3.

Good points.....get ready.

Baltimorejohn1 · 12-04-2014, 07:21 PM

I have the K&N Typhoon and it works quite well on the 14 design
The 14 design is different than the prior version quite a bit

First there is airflow going through down low rising through the hood that the K&N scoops some in this design
I pulled the clam shell from over the engine and it really started working really well

I still say the headers is where the super show starts

Now on to the vararam it and pipeline are the only cold air intakes that require a tune
So that tells you which ones deliver the most

Furthermore those making the numbers at the track use vararam I hear
The rest of them it's more which one looks best to you

There have been NO tests on the 14 using cold air intakes
The car is different and I've owned them both
Cold air intakes work a lot better in the 14 IMHO

12-02-2014, 10:13 AM	#16
Rocky1974 Drives: 2010 RJT 2SS M6 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Garrison,KY Posts: 1,548 View My Garage	Cold Air Inductions with an optional scoop. ADM, Jannetty, Apex and others, make scoops. A K&N will give you only about half the power gains of this set up. The Vararams don't dyno well, but a lot of people swear by them and claim that they only perform at speed. The CAI w/scoop setup performs well on the dyno, as well as at speed. __________________ 2010 RJT 2SS M6, Kooks Long Tubes, NPP Exhaust, CAI Cold Air w/Jannetty Scoop, RotoFab Washer Bottle, Elite Engineering Catch Can, MGW Shifter w/ZL1 Shaft and Knob, 2015 SS Sedan Steering Wheel and Air Bag, 2012 Heater Hose Conversion, 2012 Power Seat Conversion, RS Head Lights,Gen5DIY RS Conversion Harness, LED Fog Lamp Bulbs, Backup Camera Kit, NLP Spoiler, SLP Splitter, ZL1 Rockers and Diffuser, Color Matched Shark Fin, RS Roof Mouldings, Painted White Stripes, WCC LS3 Emblems, Heritage Grille and Blacked Out Tail Light Panel w/Retro SS Emblems, 416 RWHP, 411 RWT, Tuned by BlueCat.

12-02-2014, 11:09 AM	#19
ntmad8tr Music City Camaro Club Drives: 2014 2SS/RS Spring Special Edition Join Date: May 2014 Location: Christiana, TN Posts: 642 View My Garage	I have had no issues with my Cold Air Inc. easy install and looks great. Right after install: After painting it white and adding my painted engine cover, strut tower brace, strut caps and wiring harness cover: __________________ EMC(SS) USN RET. 2014 2SS *Spring Special Edition*,1 of 293. Cold Air Inc. CAI,Apex Catch Can, Kooks 1-7/8" headers, Kooks HF Cats, X-pipe, Kooks mufflers,Graphite, BMR Toe links, BMR rear trailing arms, MRR228s,RGB ORACLE Colorshift Halos, RGB LED Engine bay and Grille lighting, Diode Dynamics RGB Fog Lights. NightOwl LED control system. Painted engine cover by S.L. Customs. River Cities Creations painted strut brace. My Build Thread

12-02-2014, 11:10 AM	#20
45thCAMARO 2SS/RS xquest91x Drives: 2012 45th Anniversary 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 535 View My Garage	CAI or Roto- Fab... Good vendors to buy from are JDP Motorsport- PCM NC - Apex, I have either bought from them or been helped by them... Goodluck __________________ 2012 45th Camaro 2SS/RS LS3 Driver Mod: Stage 5 Full Bolt-ons + Tune •418RWHP/420RWTQ• H/C + Bolt-ons + Tune •485RWHP/435RWTQ• Full BMR Stage 2&3 Suspension 3.91 1LE Gear Diff Swap MGW Short Throw Shifter

12-03-2014, 06:03 PM	#24
29er Drives: 14 1LE Garage King Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MTL Posts: 1,519 View My Garage	got K&N here ,and absolutly no regrets, no check engine at all. bone stock..2014 1LE Attached Images

12-04-2014, 07:21 PM	#27
Baltimorejohn1 Drives: Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: DC Metro Posts: 1,257 View My Garage	I have the K&N Typhoon and it works quite well on the 14 design The 14 design is different than the prior version quite a bit First there is airflow going through down low rising through the hood that the K&N scoops some in this design I pulled the clam shell from over the engine and it really started working really well I still say the headers is where the super show starts Now on to the vararam it and pipeline are the only cold air intakes that require a tune So that tells you which ones deliver the most Furthermore those making the numbers at the track use vararam I hear The rest of them it's more which one looks best to you There have been NO tests on the 14 using cold air intakes The car is different and I've owned them both Cold air intakes work a lot better in the 14 IMHO __________________ K&N TYPHOON http://www.youtube.com/user/Baltimorejohn1

12-02-2014, 09:17 AM	#15
Tampa Tuning Account Suspended Drives: TAMPA TUNING FACEBOOK & INSTAGRAM Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 3,044	Whatever intake you get, buy one with a cold air scoop. If you dont, your going tobe breathing in engine bay temperture air which can reduce the amount of timing your vehicle accepts. Im a vararam fan if they make it for your vehicle

12-02-2014, 10:41 AM	#18
Kelly@PCMofNC Drives: 2010 RS/SS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 959	Rotofab or CAI! We have both on sale right now (last day of our Thanksgiving sale!)

12-02-2014, 01:38 PM	#22
vicnkathy Account Suspended Drives: 2014 Subaru Forester Turbo Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: NY Posts: 536	Pick what you like and can afford. There's a lot of K&N hate on here and a lot of CAI nut swingers. There may be a 2-3 hp difference between ANY of them. Funny thing is if you look at the Z28 intake it's made by K&N except for a dry flow filter. And it is more then good enough for that engine. I have seen some used K&N's go for about $125 and were like brand new because of all the hate. The CAI is a $400 unit and uses shrink wrap to keep the air breather in place!! Not very well thought out imho. But that's my opinion. I will say on a dyno session I say a 11hp and 13ft/lb difference on a friends 13SS hood closed with a K&N system over stock. Bone stock car with 1,300 miles on it. LS3.

12-03-2014, 06:11 PM	#25
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	I've had the k&n for over 4 years now. No complaints. I've never dyno'd my car to see any results but I doubt there is a huge difference in HP gains. I'd save the extra money and also get a ported tb. I got mine from bo. This combination has been great for me so far