Does the can tune from Magnuson or Procharger address TCM?

streetyme · 11-25-2017, 03:29 PM

Hello looking to go to a super charger setup pretty soon , and was curious if the canned tune for the magnuson heartbeat or procharger address the TCM or does it just modify the ECM parameters? I have a A8 just didn't know if they modify torque tables, line pressure or other key points?

Joe

Charlie540i · 11-25-2017, 03:48 PM

I did a read on a car we did last year with a Magnuson and they only changed the engine stuff. Nothing was changed in the TCM tune.

Maybe there's something different now, but at least last december it was like that.

streetyme · 11-25-2017, 04:13 PM

Thanks for the input..

laynlo15 · 11-25-2017, 04:13 PM

No trans changes, just engine. I ran 10.80's on the canned tune and its pretty conservative.

streetyme · 11-25-2017, 04:27 PM

Thanks Greg for the heads up.. Did you experience any of the transmission shudder that some of the A8's are experiencing?

streetyme · 11-25-2017, 04:30 PM

I might say that's also very impressive with a canned tune running 10.80's with the heartbeat and drag-pack

laynlo15 · 11-25-2017, 04:34 PM

I've only had that happen a few times. I haven't driven my car on the street since June so I'll find out tomorrow if it still does it. I'm finally done racing for the year so 9 second passes for next year. The deal still stands when every your ready.

streetyme · 11-25-2017, 04:37 PM

Thanks Greg..

Josh The People · 11-26-2017, 07:18 PM

Yeah I was wondering this aswell... I'll end up more than likely getting a dyno tune but I've yet to talk to my tuner about the A8 issues yet.... I haven't experienced the "shutter" myself yet but all these complaints got me worried haha

ProCharger · 11-28-2017, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by streetyme

Hello looking to go to a super charger setup pretty soon , and was curious if the canned tune for the magnuson heartbeat or procharger address the TCM or does it just modify the ECM parameters? I have a A8 just didn't know if they modify torque tables, line pressure or other key points?

Joe

The factory transmission programming is got MORE than enough logic built in to fully understand the added power, and make the needed changes.

As one of the factory OEM tuners for that transmission told me... "Just don't lie to it, and it will be smarter than anyone pushing the buttons"

Be careful on what people sell as a "good idea" when GM has already done the long-term research on what programming is needed to make those transmissions live long and happy lives (for warranty reasons) even well beyond the factory engine HP rating...

The KISS method at its finest.

JANNETTYRACING · 11-28-2017, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetyme

Hello looking to go to a super charger setup pretty soon , and was curious if the canned tune for the magnuson heartbeat or procharger address the TCM or does it just modify the ECM parameters? I have a A8 just didn't know if they modify torque tables, line pressure or other key points?

Joe

Hello Joe,

The A8 is not supported by SCT X4 so if you want A8 support you will have to move to HPtuners.

If you purchase your supercharger and HPtuners from JRE you get FREE custom tuning for both the engine and transmission, the converter shudder is very easily addressed.

Feel free to give me a call. 203-753-7223

Ted.

streetyme · 11-28-2017, 03:45 PM

Thanks everyone for the insight and advice..

laynlo15 · 11-28-2017, 07:17 PM

I am basically running the A8 stock tune. The dam thing shifts pretty freaking good and I agree don't try to fool it and you really don't have to mess with to much of the torque management. If you do it may cause the tranny to fail. GM did a pretty good job.

KingLT1 · 11-28-2017, 08:05 PM

If you actually drive your A8 on the street, there is a huge improvement tuning the A8's TCM compared to stock tuning. One huge improvement is turning off the TCC slip tables and adjust the TCC lock up so the converter does not lock until 8th gear part throttle. I can not stand a automatic transmission that locks in the lower gears. I just want to feel a nice crisp shift and not AFM or Converter lock between gears.

11-25-2017, 03:29 PM	#1
streetyme Drives: 2016 2SS nav mag ride npp a8 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St Louis Posts: 202	Does the can tune from Magnuson or Procharger address TCM? Hello looking to go to a super charger setup pretty soon , and was curious if the canned tune for the magnuson heartbeat or procharger address the TCM or does it just modify the ECM parameters? I have a A8 just didn't know if they modify torque tables, line pressure or other key points? Joe __________________ 2016 2SS A8 mag ride npp exhaust nav sunroof Rotofab CAI Borla Atak NPP Corsa X pipe BBS CHR Extreme Contactsport 2.9 Whipple Elite catch can Rotofab Juiced Motorsports installed by STG Motorsports JMS Fuel Maxx tuned by Gregs Tuning Operation Weld Laguna 17x10 18x5 2006 mustang gt Magnuson Livernois stage 2 heads stage 2 blower cams dynatech headers 4.10's Circle D convertor 533/511bs) (9.8lbs)

11-25-2017, 04:13 PM	#3
streetyme Drives: 2016 2SS nav mag ride npp a8 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St Louis Posts: 202	Thanks for the input.. __________________ 2016 2SS A8 mag ride npp exhaust nav sunroof Rotofab CAI Borla Atak NPP Corsa X pipe BBS CHR Extreme Contactsport 2.9 Whipple Elite catch can Rotofab Juiced Motorsports installed by STG Motorsports JMS Fuel Maxx tuned by Gregs Tuning Operation Weld Laguna 17x10 18x5 2006 mustang gt Magnuson Livernois stage 2 heads stage 2 blower cams dynatech headers 4.10's Circle D convertor 533/511bs) (9.8lbs)

11-25-2017, 04:13 PM	#4
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	No trans changes, just engine. I ran 10.80's on the canned tune and its pretty conservative. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

11-25-2017, 04:27 PM	#5
streetyme Drives: 2016 2SS nav mag ride npp a8 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St Louis Posts: 202	Thanks Greg for the heads up.. Did you experience any of the transmission shudder that some of the A8's are experiencing? __________________ 2016 2SS A8 mag ride npp exhaust nav sunroof Rotofab CAI Borla Atak NPP Corsa X pipe BBS CHR Extreme Contactsport 2.9 Whipple Elite catch can Rotofab Juiced Motorsports installed by STG Motorsports JMS Fuel Maxx tuned by Gregs Tuning Operation Weld Laguna 17x10 18x5 2006 mustang gt Magnuson Livernois stage 2 heads stage 2 blower cams dynatech headers 4.10's Circle D convertor 533/511bs) (9.8lbs)

11-25-2017, 04:30 PM	#6
streetyme Drives: 2016 2SS nav mag ride npp a8 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St Louis Posts: 202	I might say that's also very impressive with a canned tune running 10.80's with the heartbeat and drag-pack __________________ 2016 2SS A8 mag ride npp exhaust nav sunroof Rotofab CAI Borla Atak NPP Corsa X pipe BBS CHR Extreme Contactsport 2.9 Whipple Elite catch can Rotofab Juiced Motorsports installed by STG Motorsports JMS Fuel Maxx tuned by Gregs Tuning Operation Weld Laguna 17x10 18x5 2006 mustang gt Magnuson Livernois stage 2 heads stage 2 blower cams dynatech headers 4.10's Circle D convertor 533/511bs) (9.8lbs)

11-25-2017, 03:48 PM	#2
Charlie540i Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Carolina, PR Posts: 47	I did a read on a car we did last year with a Magnuson and they only changed the engine stuff. Nothing was changed in the TCM tune. Maybe there's something different now, but at least last december it was like that.

11-25-2017, 04:34 PM	#7
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I've only had that happen a few times. I haven't driven my car on the street since June so I'll find out tomorrow if it still does it. I'm finally done racing for the year so 9 second passes for next year. The deal still stands when every your ready. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

11-25-2017, 04:37 PM	#8
streetyme Drives: 2016 2SS nav mag ride npp a8 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St Louis Posts: 202	Thanks Greg.. __________________ 2016 2SS A8 mag ride npp exhaust nav sunroof Rotofab CAI Borla Atak NPP Corsa X pipe BBS CHR Extreme Contactsport 2.9 Whipple Elite catch can Rotofab Juiced Motorsports installed by STG Motorsports JMS Fuel Maxx tuned by Gregs Tuning Operation Weld Laguna 17x10 18x5 2006 mustang gt Magnuson Livernois stage 2 heads stage 2 blower cams dynatech headers 4.10's Circle D convertor 533/511bs) (9.8lbs)

11-26-2017, 07:18 PM	#9
Josh The People Drives: TT 10' SS -> 16' SS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Kingsville Ontario Posts: 198	Yeah I was wondering this aswell... I'll end up more than likely getting a dyno tune but I've yet to talk to my tuner about the A8 issues yet.... I haven't experienced the "shutter" myself yet but all these complaints got me worried haha __________________

11-28-2017, 03:45 PM	#12
streetyme Drives: 2016 2SS nav mag ride npp a8 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St Louis Posts: 202	Thanks everyone for the insight and advice.. __________________ 2016 2SS A8 mag ride npp exhaust nav sunroof Rotofab CAI Borla Atak NPP Corsa X pipe BBS CHR Extreme Contactsport 2.9 Whipple Elite catch can Rotofab Juiced Motorsports installed by STG Motorsports JMS Fuel Maxx tuned by Gregs Tuning Operation Weld Laguna 17x10 18x5 2006 mustang gt Magnuson Livernois stage 2 heads stage 2 blower cams dynatech headers 4.10's Circle D convertor 533/511bs) (9.8lbs)

11-28-2017, 07:17 PM	#13
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I am basically running the A8 stock tune. The dam thing shifts pretty freaking good and I agree don't try to fool it and you really don't have to mess with to much of the torque management. If you do it may cause the tranny to fail. GM did a pretty good job. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

11-28-2017, 08:05 PM	#14
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,801	If you actually drive your A8 on the street, there is a huge improvement tuning the A8's TCM compared to stock tuning. One huge improvement is turning off the TCC slip tables and adjust the TCC lock up so the converter does not lock until 8th gear part throttle. I can not stand a automatic transmission that locks in the lower gears. I just want to feel a nice crisp shift and not AFM or Converter lock between gears. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

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