[6spdhyperblue]

Originally Posted by AzItaliaSS

Prob the same guys that thought the twins were gonna kick the crap out of the Tacoma years back, and last time I checked that score is a lopsided losing effort and the Tacoma Atkinson engine is a dog and searches for gears forever, now more competition knocking on the door in the form of the ranger.

Twins refresh is coming in 3rd quarter for those trucks as well and its scary now to see what they came up with. I was hoping for more edgy lines and good truck styling but im nervous off the charts now after seeing two "refreshes".

The latest being this debacle. Lingering in the muscle market but not for this thing.

Were the twins ever supposed to beat the Tacoma? I'm pretty sure they exceeded sales targets, and never needed to beat the Tacoma to be considered a success. They keep adding trims so I think the brass agrees.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by shaffe

See Below,



This ^ I would think they could have made the trunk slightly larger or a better opening without sacrificing performance. It was a clear style over function choice IMO.



I don't want it to be more than it is, I just want it to be as capable/liveable as it's direct competitor.



That's funny I see a lot of similarities in the design of the Silverado and the new SS...

So you want the Camaro to be bigger yet still faster and better handling than its competition? It is the lightest pony car on the market and outperforms them all (and some exotics too) but the golf clubs dont fit without folding down a seat. Agree fully: it is a complete fail and nothing short of a disaster!

[6spdhyperblue]

I mean everyone plays golf tho right? Hockey sticks don't fit so everyone needs a suburban now.

[Low Saturn]

Originally Posted by Pct1theory

Why isn't bright yellow or ANY yellow listed under the colors for the car???

Yeah. It was a well liked and popular color. I know plenty of people who settled on their second choice because they couldn't find d a yellow one with the options they wanted. For me, it took several months of searching before I found one in yellow with the options I wanted. It was yellow or nothing. I missed out on several yellow Camaros because they'd be sold almost as soon as they were listed.

Good thing the 2019 is ugly and won't be purchasing one or else I'd be pretty upset I couldn't get it in yellow.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by Nicul15

I mean everyone plays golf tho right? Hockey sticks don't fit so everyone needs a suburban now.

Or a Challenger as its dimensions and weight are pretty similar.

[90503]

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Maybe it's too much to expect the Camaro to accommodate four golfers at once, but it should at least be good enough for one...lol...You can make fun of golf all you want, but if it doesn't work for someone who does golf, it's a lost sale....just sayin'...

Impala....19 cu.ft...lol

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by TrackClub

So you want the Camaro to be bigger yet still faster and better handling than its competition? It is the lightest pony car on the market and outperforms them all (and some exotics too) but the golf clubs dont fit without folding down a seat. Agree fully: it is a complete fail and nothing short of a disaster!

Different priorities for different people man. They made a styling choice that won't accomodate things I like to do in my life. Like I said, when I had my Mustang it wasn't a problem to keep my clubs and my softball bag in the trunk all summer.

What if I wasn't even looking at a performance version? What if I was just looking at base models. that is where the issue is. Everyone hear looks past these issues with performance blinders on because the car is the best performer in the segment. And I get it, this is an enthusiast site and some of you guys are lucky enough to have the car as a second car or a toy.

Some of us aren't that lucky. Some of us might need to daily drive the car. Some of us might still want the car. Some of us can't because of compromises that they made when designing the car. I get it, some of that stuff isn't important to other people. I personally don't think making the trunk a little bigger would have compromised performance that much if any. When your trunk in your coupe is smaller than the trunk in the competitions convertible that is problem IMO.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by Number 3

It is much smaller. 9.1 cu. ft vs the Mustangs 13.5.

You cannot get golf clubs in the trunk of a Camaro without the rear seat folded if you have a current 45" or longer driver. It's the main reason I don't have a Gen6 in the driveway.

Also, the Camaro is off of the Alpha architecture and you CAN get two sets of golf clubs in an ATS Coupe and Sedan. So it isn't the architecture. It's what they did with it.

Actually it can be done. I have a convertible, so the backseats don’t fold down. I simply remove my driver from my golf bag, place the bag in the trunk, and lay the driver down beside the bag. Top is up, of course, so that I have access to the full depth of the trunk. If the top is down, clubs are in the back seat.

[29er]

the new camaro taillights are like/similar the 2013~ malibu, lack of imagination.

[Crim]

Originally Posted by 29er

the new camaro taillights are like/similar the 2013~ malibu, lack of imagination.


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Not even close... only comparison is they separated them into two lights.

The refresh is much more reminiscent of the 5th Gen lights that everyone loved.

[Boost Creep]

As a child I remember the man next door buying a brand new '74 Camaro early in the spring, he loved the refresh of the second gen Camaro and couldn't wait until it warmed up and he could show his buddies.
One warm Sunday a few weeks later I remember a commotion in the neighbors drive way, yelling and cussing. Looked out and saw his family and a couple neighbors gathered around the back of his car. I wandered over, being curious and 12 years old, I had to know what happened.
I get around the back where everyone had gathered and there was Mr. O, red faced and furious staring at the trunk of his Camaro with a golf bag half stuffed into the opening.
His golf bag didn't fit!
Never saw that Camaro again, he came home with a '74 Malibu, I remember the swivel buckets.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Boost Creep

As a child I remember the man next door buying a brand new '74 Camaro early in the spring, he loved the refresh of the second gen Camaro and couldn't wait until it warmed up and he could show his buddies.
One warm Sunday a few weeks later I remember a commotion in the neighbors drive way, yelling and cussing. Looked out and saw his family and a couple neighbors gathered around the back of his car. I wandered over, being curious and 12 years old, I had to know what happened.
I get around the back where everyone had gathered and there was Mr. O, red faced and furious staring at the trunk of his Camaro with a golf bag half stuffed into the opening.
His golf bag didn't fit!
Never saw that Camaro again, he came home with a '74 Malibu, I remember the swivel buckets.

I golfed almost every day when I had a 70 Firebird. Clubs just went in the front seat. No issues Back seat if someone was with me. But back then Woods were wooden and not so long.

[Havoc54]

Originally Posted by mlee

I golfed almost every day when I had a 70 Firebird. Clubs just went in the front seat. No issues Back seat if someone was with me. But back then Woods were wooden and not so long.

When I decide to take my Camaro now I just set the clubs in the passenger seat area on a towel and it works fine.

[thefirstcause]

Originally Posted by 29er

the new camaro taillights are like/similar the 2013~ malibu, lack of imagination.

I remember thinking those lights just looked like Camaro rip offs to try and boost the Malibu a little. I think the new tail lights look awesome, the whole rear end does. The lights have a lot of heritage going through multiple generations of Camaro, 1st, 2nd, 5th. Camaro has always switched between dual and quad lights, both can look great. I think these new lights, along with the adjusted bumper cover to removed the crease/bumps under the lights, make the whole back end look beefy and muscle.