2012 v6 Camaro vs 2009 328i BMW

[victorv]

Originally Posted by gjarzabek009

Holy shit man if these forums had dumbass awards you'd win the top prize.

Hey man have you put you lt on a dyno

[gjarzabek009]

Originally Posted by victorv

Hey man have you put you lt on a dyno

nah, im waiting until my mom pays for it

[MichaelH]

Originally Posted by victorv

Hey man have you put you lt on a dyno

The camaro is faster than the 328i and it's 0-60 is 5.9

[DarkFox1]

Originally Posted by victorv

Your an idiot

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You aren't here to learn or you would have fixed this error already.

the camaro isn't necessarily "built for" any engine.

The vehicle weighs what it weighs.

The body weight comes from the Zeta platform and all the EPA and government required regulations, safety equipment, and the lack of weight reducing components like fiberglass doors/fenders/body like you see on 4th gen camaros and on corvettes.

Basically, the v6 camaro is the answer to maximize sales for the car, for people who want a sporty, amazingly well handling car, but don't necessarily want the added cost and issues that come with owning a high performance vehicle.

It attracts the market of people who are interested in the sebring, the accord coupe, and other similar 2 door run-around-town cars, and corners the market on aggressive looks.

GM has had the v6 camaro since.. well.. I guess forever... it's never bee the top of the heap because THATS NOT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WITH IT.

If they attempted to rely on SS sales alone the car would not be marketable and would not exist. The v6 car allows the platform to appeal to a larger audience.

If I've said it once I've said it 1000 times. If you don't like the way the car is stock.. CHANGE IT! NOTHING is set in stone and you have a HUGE aftermarket for this car.

I thought like you when I was younger, and believed that cars where what they were and could not be changed. A car is nothing more than a collection of parts.

If you want changes.. you change it.

But again.. you sound like you want the BMW, so tell your mom thanks but no thanks, I don't want a camaro because it's too slow for me.. I'll just drive your car instead.. and be done with it.

[Rock36]

Originally Posted by victorv

That makes alot of sence, i figured what you just said plus the camaro being build for the bigger v8 engines make it alot heavier than the all v6 BMWs explains why the 0-60 seems so close. Glad to get a good answer.

He is talking about the 2012 328i with the turbo 4 cylinder, the 2011 328i has an inline 6... BMW doesnt build V6 engines, not yet anyway... The new 2012 328i is even faster and costs even more than the 2011 did

[L99CAMA2011]

Originally Posted by CamaroBelarus

What a stupid post... there is NO any right number. 328i - 6.4 0-60, not 6.3. Camaro is 323 hp not 325, motortrend got 5.9 with 2010 with 306hp, not 6.6 (WTF? challenger v6 is faster that this), 2012 with new engine even faster, camaro weight is 3750, not 4100.

So we have 3400 230hp 6.4 14.7 1/4 bmw and 3750 324hp 5.9 14.2 1/4 (or even better with new engine) camaro. Where is a problem?

Seriously, is there really a big difference between 6.3 vs 6.4, grow up. In the real world that is not even an issue. Also I've seen some V6 Camaros that run very well and would roast an E9 series 328. However I also seen some 328s that run very well when modded and they can really run 0-60 in under 7 seconds.

[victorv]

Originally Posted by Rock36

He is talking about the 2012 328i with the turbo 4 cylinder, the 2011 328i has an inline 6... BMW doesnt build V6 engines, not yet anyway... The new 2012 328i is even faster and costs even more than the 2011 did

Your right, i meant inline 6 thats what the 2009 has

[victorv]

Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

Seriously, is there really a big difference between 6.3 vs 6.4, grow up. In the real world that is not even an issue. Also I've seen some V6 Camaros that run very well and would roast an E9 series 328. However I also seen some 328s that run very well when modded and they can really run 0-60 in under 7 seconds.

Do you know what kind of mods those 328is had? People seem to think that the best thing to do if you have a 328i without a turbo then to just trade it in for the stock turbo version.

[yzrider58]

Well Victor it looks like everyone on here dislikes you cause you live in Georgetown and got parents who made it. You probably appreciate it so back to your original question. Get the Camaro to pick up chicks with. Most of them want to be Megan Fox in Transformers and they'll believe your Shia Lebeouf. You can't go wrong with that.

As far as all these 0-60 times that are within tenths of each other, does it really matter? You mentioned that the Camry V6 might be faster. I doubt it in real life, but maybe. One thing is for sure, you won't look even half as cool driving a Toyota four-door grocery getter. Oh and a lot of those 0-60 times will become irrelevant because a lot of a cars performance comes down to driver ability. My 1/4 mile times are slower than those of someone with more experience racing Camaro's down the track.

Oh and I have friends who drive BMW's. They are really nice, but like anything German they are over-engineered. In history class you probably should have learned in World War II the Tiger tank was superior to the American Sherman tank. However, the Sherman could be mass produced and eventually won because of simplicity and massive numbers. The German Tiger was better in every way, but its complexity caused it to fail. BMW's have features and gadgets that are unique to German cars. The Camaro is simpler, better looking and easier to work with. Lot's more mods you can do as well. You've probably been looking on here and in the member build journals. The possibilities are endless.

Bottom line...you'll pull more chicks in the Camaro. Just do it!! Oh and don't forget to post some pics.

[CamaroBelarus]

Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

Seriously, is there really a big difference between 6.3 vs 6.4, grow up. In the real world that is not even an issue. Also I've seen some V6 Camaros that run very well and would roast an E9 series 328. However I also seen some 328s that run very well when modded and they can really run 0-60 in under 7 seconds.

Seriously, grow up urself, read carefully and undertand. The point was not that 6.4 is a lot different from 6.3. Ofc its almost the same. The point was that in his very first post every number was wrong. EVERY.

[jd10013]

Originally Posted by yzrider58

In history class you probably should have learned in World War II the Tiger tank was superior to the American Sherman tank. However, the Sherman could be mass produced and eventually won because of simplicity and massive numbers.

not quite. the shermans couldn't even get in range. and their shells simply weren't big enough to damage the tigers. the tigers were destroyed from the air. it was allied air dominance that made up for the weakness of the Sherman.

[scrming]

Originally Posted by victorv

The problem is that I have a choice between driving one or the other and i know there is no exact number but you can get close . I notice you don't know the 0-60 num er at all for the 2012 Camaro and that's the car im talking about not 2010. I couldnt find any 0-60 time more reliable than the 6.6 i read from a motor trend article and i also read that the v6 Camry runs a faster 0-60 than the v6 Camaro. about Even if the BMW is at 6.4 and the camaro is running a 6.0 it still leaves me wondering why Chevy couldn't produce a faster car with that three hundred twenty FOUR hp V6. Also it makes me wonder why the camaro is so heavy when it's a couple and the BMW is a sedan.

It's not about HP it's about TORQUE... learn the difference... learn to ready dyno sheets...

And sorry, you may not be 16 but you sure act like it... BOO-HOO, my mommy and daddy will only buy me a V6 Camaro... poor poor pitiful me... Man up and buy your own SS if that's what you want...

[scrming]

For the record, my 100% 2010 V6 automatic did 0-60 MPH in 6.0 seconds...

[Stealthpanda]

EDIT: I posted something rude and realized it would make no impact... so lets revert to instead. Cheers ...